Once I got beat at GG by friend button mashing. The unpredictability thing got me, I think. I punished him severely for it a week or so later though, and think I turned him off the game for life.
I also lost a round to some kid who was mashing with Ryu in Third Strike. I was using Ibuki, so after that round, I just stuck to backjumping and throwing out a kunai when he came in from the air, and sticking out a toward+HK when he came in from the ground. Meticulous, conservative play beats mashing any day.
It is possible to be “good” and lose to a button masher…button mashers do not pay attention to what you are doing and just do random shit. Thus, trying to play complicated against them will usually get you hit pretty bad. It is possible to get beaten quite badly the first match (or part of the first match), and then adapt to their badness and own them in the later matches.
If you’re playing online, the probability of losing to a button masher does increase, because good players try to time their counters and attack strings, while button mashers just hit buttons randomly with no sense of timing. Thus, if you ever mistime anything once, you will probably get hit by some mashed sweeps or something. My Guy in SFA3 once lost to a button masher. Every damn time I tried to punish his whiffed fierce DP with the FF chains, I would mistime one of the hits and immediately get swept. It was rediculous.
Well down here in SD we usually play malls and there is a mall i always go to and there is this guy that a group of my friends start calling him now “The Iron Master” and he abiously uses ironman and all he does is Hyper jump, smart bombs, low high kick, dash up, assist and it starts again plus everytime you lift him up he starts mashing so if you try to reset him consider that a NO!!!
in every game you play you should always be defensive and reactionary. You should always be watching your opponents character, never your own, and you should always have the upperhand since your damage output will be thrice fold your opponents (aka you can actually punish things).
I mean, in a game where you know all the ins and outs, yea, you’re probably a scrub.
But sometimes when a game hasn’t been fully explored, or sometimes when someone abuses a particular move, ie. button mashing back and hk with Elena, it can catch you off guard.
In that case it’s better to learn and pay attention to a particular move that you never really gave credit to rather than get upset that you lost to “Scrubby” tactics.
you’re still a scrub since elena’s b+rh is one of her best attacks. even at high level you need to know how to get past that move. and you’re playing 3s. if they’re using the same attack over and over again you should know how to parry it.
mashers have that odd luck bonus. somehow they will hit you with the weirdest shit and counter stuff without having a clue. it’s really odd to play against one
Insult me for stating the fact that there might be things out there that a player may or may not have had to deal with in the time they’ve been playing. Thanks for inferring that I was referring to myself there. It was an example of a move, that if you have not dealt with it, or against someone who spams/button mashes it, a person might loose a round or match until they adjust.
A few years back, a few friends and I were playing Guilty Gear XX #Reload. Only two of us knew how to play on a decent level, myself using Faust and another fellow who used Zappa. Well, a button masher friend of mine decides to pick Eddie, and the Zappa player and I proceed to laugh at him, as “It’s fucking impossible to mash with Eddie.” Well, we play a few matches, and I’m totally dominating; however, during one of the rounds, out of nowhere, he mashes this crazy ass 17 or so hit combo. While this is nothing special, the fact that it was an RC combo and not a super surprised the fuck out of me, and caused me to lose concentration. Thus, I lost said round.
I still don’t see how he managed to mash and pull something like that off. >_<
well i’m thinking maybe i can beat an average to below average player in SC by just mashing. but i wasn’t randomly mashing. it was constructive mashing and plus i knew how to use the joystick.
When I was about 10, I was hanging out at the kiddy arcade area in the casino and was playing SFCE as Bison on freeplay. I had some 4 year old pop onto the game and take Blanka. The WHOLE FUCKING MATCH he was literally jumping around and mashing. And when he got close to me he miraculously neutral threw me everytime. And everytime he did it, he’d scream, “Chew your head! Chew your head! Hahahahahaha!!!” in his kiddy 4 year old voice. This happened close to half a dozen times. He beat me and I was pissed. I figured fluke so I tried again and same fucking result with the same color comentary.
It happened way back in a chinese restaurant in the hood in 93 with World Warrior…i picked Blanka, the masher’s friend picked Ken…He was pretty good, and we both won a round. The masher took over and fought me for the last round, and I decided to hang back and nail him out of moves with the roll. Hurricane? Block, roll. Going crazy on the controller? Repeated low fierces until he had no life. Then I fucked up. I had FULL life meter. I did another roll while he was still going crazy on the stick, trying to do “a blue hit”…and caught me out of the roll at the last second with a point-blank, executed-by-luck dragon punch. That shit took ALL my life. 1-hit ko. That was SO fucked up.
Button mashers don’t play logically. They throw out the dumbest moves at the strangest possible times. It’s best to just sit there and block and wait for them to do something stupid. If you try to use mindgames on them, it just doesn’t work. So…you CAN lose to them in teh process of trying to understand what the hell they are doing and what they could do next.
And the damage output won’t necessarily be higher if the opponent is doing totally random supers, unless your combos are considerably better than that.