Hell yeah, she gains so much meter, it’s ridiculous even without missiles.
I’m just glad ChrisG doesn’t use Sentinel drones incase Doom goes down.
Serious post time I guess:
Really hard: Iron Man, Dr. Strange, Jill, C. Viper, Chun Li, Shuma Gorath, Spiderman, Morrigan (if you play her bullet hell style and don’t want arthritis)
I don’t know what in particular order, who’s harder than who, etc, but all those characters have a huge execution barrier.
C. Viper, Jill, Chun Li, Iron Man, Spidey, and Amaterasu (those mid combo weapon changes…)
Shuma Gorath.
He has charge partitioning. Who else in this game has anything even CLOSE to that level of execution? His BnBs require the strictest timing too, he basically requires a god to play him to be at his most effective.
CHARGE GODDAMN PARTITIONING. DO YOU EVEN COMPREHEND? :arazz:
If you say Jill Valentine Has high execution you clearly haven’t spent more than 5 minutes with her.
Shuma Gorath, Iron Man, C.Viper.
C. Viper, Chun-Li, Zero (kinda).
Oh come on Spidey isn’t THAT hard to play :rolleyes: :wgrin:
Remember, execution doesn’t necessarily mean “hardest character to use.” It could be the characters difficulty in approach and their ability to open someone up; e.g. - Tele’s + Assist is an easy/safe way to get in, or it could be hard for Hulk to open someone up (having to be patient as fuck.) But yeah, no doubt, her execution isn’t too difficult.
Try charge partitioning with Shuma for a taste of execution and I’m talking about making that shit consistent. I got it like 85% of the time on the right side and only like 50% on the left side. He might feel easier now for me but that’s cause I’ve been playing him since Vanilla.
MODOK is hard to play effectively for how good of a character he is too.
Everything about her is easy. The closest thing to being hard is Madbeast Loops, but then you realize it’s just the same consistant rhythm. To open people up with her is even easier, this is why I say if you think jill is hard you haven’t spent 5 minutes with her.
Literally, all you have to do to open someone up is fc–>fdash 9S.
She has more or less the same executional barrier (lol) of Shulk.
Zero hard to use. I’ve seen it all.
Not in general or on a basic level no, he isn’t hard to use. But some of his more advanced techniques are hard to utilize effectively.
(Can anyone say fullscreen lightning loops?)
Of course. Bring up a random combo that is not even necessary and slap it onto a character with braindead sword normals. If you want to play that game, shuma and viper are about 100 times harder than anyone else in the game since viper has a self infinite with frame tight links and shuma has a theory fullscreen bnb that requires plink dash charge partitioning. You don’t need to use fullscreen lightning loops last I checked. The lightning loop isn’t even that hard. I’m not saying the character doesn’t require some thought but calling him amongst the hardest in the game is pretty laughable.
Zero is easy and I’m fraud. TKing A DP isn’t hard really, and you have so much time to input them anyway.
You can get VERY far without even knowing lightning loops and zero has the best abare in the game.
lol @ full screen lightning loops when all of his combos have corner carry.
I wasn’t expecting all this butthurt.
I fear the worst for your attention spans, continuing to criticize me (for whatever reason) when I even said that I believe he is a generally easy character to use. Call me crazy for having the opinion, but I do find his lightning loops hard to use. Yes, you don’t have to use them. They are not his most effective methods. But if you’re going to go with that logic, why use any other character’s methods? Why not just use people who can chuck plasma over and over?
I apologize if the fact that I insinuated that Zero has some difficult abilities to utilize effectively offended people (because apparently it did). It’s just how it seems to me, doesn’t necessarily dictate it as true. I figured the “kinda” I put next to him would have garnered some leniency on the opinion.
EDIT:Also, Zero is a lot easier to use on a stick. I don’t use a stick for MVC3, maybe that’s why some of his abilities seem hard to master for me.
There is so much wrong with that post that I’m not even going to bother dissecting it. For one, lightning loops are not the same thing as fullscreen lightning loops. You said fullscreen lightning loops, which are by no means necessary. I’m not going with any logic. I was pointing out the stupidity of your’s. I respect zero players. I think he takes some marginal skill like most characters, but the reason I cannot even begin to fathom calling him among the hardest is because of how damn derpy he is designed. He has bullshit sword normals, and his mobility is pretty damn easy to utilize. You can cancel anything unsafe by releasing a button, and lightning loops can be learned in training mode within a few hours. I don’t even see how you can say he’s easier on a stick when you have in fact pointed out that you do not play this game with a stick. Obviously there is the flaw of having to hold down a button on a controller, but I’ve seen plenty of zero pad players who do just fine. Is zero harder than a large chunk of the cast? Sure. Is he close to being the hardest in the game? Not a chance.
Again, you speak of stupidity when you are the one calling my opinion wrong. Am I missing something here…? Lol.
Also, just because I don’t use a stick on Mvc, doesn’t mean that I never have had experience with the game on a stick. I figured that would have been easy enough to figure out. I know Zero is not close to being the hardest character. You hear that? I HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT. Just as I said I did in my previous posts. What I’m saying, is that I think he has some difficult mechanics. I do. I think that. You don’t have to, the world doesn’t have to either, but I do. Good lord, let’s make a spectacle out of this why don’t we. This is one of the few forums I can go to, to have my opinion deemed as “wrong”. Lol.
In my opinion a water molecule is made up of 8 gold atoms and 2 helium atoms. You can’t say I am wrong because it is my opinion. Also, if you aren’t saying that zero isn’t one of the hardest characters in the game, why would you put him in your list of characters in a thread titled, “Hardest characters to use?” That makes no sense.
The physicalities and scientific properties of something like the anatomy of a water molecule aren’t things that are open to that of human opinion…you can choose to believe whatever you want about it, but belief in the face of fact is very different than the principle of opinion.
I can’t believe you’d even try to make that point, almost more than I can’t believe how I’m being ostracized over my opinion on a character in Mvc. Like, seriously reflect and look at how stupid this shit is. Lol.
I think zero and c viper need to be listed here more then they are. When zero amd c viper are considered to be the top 2 by many people, how come you see 10x more vergils, weskers, wolverines and what not, because although the characters are cheap as shit, they take time into them to be useful, they both have low health so you need to actualy know what your doing and cant just random teleport/berserker slash while an assists out, or use factor and do a million damage off a bnb my great aunt could do.