Golden Armor then switch out and spam her Assist A haha.
But I had a hard time using Firebrand, we didn’t seem to connect.
I’ve heard his air dashes are awkward and takes a long time to get used to his movement. Other than movement and some people complaining about his damage, his combos are pretty easy to do IMO.
I can use him now, since he reminds me a little bit of Wolverine, but just something threw me off about him.
And yeah, his combos are easy + his super can OTG.
Gotta say, Doctor Strange is hella hard to use against anyone who knows how to play properly.
He eats mashers alive though.
Meh. You just have to learn is spacing on normals.
Have you ever actually played him before?
Yes, I have. Aside from his weird normals and being unsafe he’s fairly easy to play. Mystic sword is gdlk.
I use him on my alt team.
His only low hitting normal is c.H. His other normals aren’t that great either, and are highly punishable. Getting a hit with him is a giant pain in the ass, his mobility is garbage aside from his teleports; no proper/useful wavedash or airdash. He can’t even teleport behind people in the corner.
Getting a hit with him is a giant chore, and his low health doesn’t help much either. He is not an easy character to use against anyone who knows how to properly block and play the game.
That being said, there are other characters that are MUCH harder to use IMO. Characters like Phoenix Wright, Hsien-ko, Chun-li, Iron Fist, maybe Iron Man, etc.
I think some of the shit in this thread is hilarious. (Mostly Natureboy actually)
I think that people are confusing the topic of this thread and there are two ways to interpret it
Hardest character to WIN WITH
and
Hardest character to learn and get comfortable with
Hardest to win with: Hsien Ko, Arthur, Haggar, Phoenix Wright, She Hulk, Iron Man, chun li, dr strange all come to mind.
hardest characters to learn/play at high level: Spiderman, Modok, Strider, Rocket Raccoon, Iron Fist,
Hsien Ko and Dr strange are difficult to learn Natureboy. You are just talking vs your average everyday joe shmoe but like Dreize said, anyone who knows how to block is going to block anything dr strange does. His range is ass and he has no form of approach other than teleports. He has no dash, no tridash, no square jump horrible walk speed, no overhead. How are you going to approach and apply pressure? He’s another hawkeye or spencer. He’s only good if he has meter and you just have to learn to respect the spell of ashanti/gimlet/bionic arm. It’s easy to play Dr Strange and do abcs bbcs hyper for 500K but thats the scrubby day one crap.
Okay, yeah, Strange can’t approach. But why the fuck would you? You generally want to stay away from them and set up graces/eyes/bolts so that you can use your only mixup available. He’s not a fucking rushdown character. An airdash would be nice, but he definitely doesn’t need it. And his only low hitting move being c.H doesn’t really matter much either, because his overheads are obv and can be seen coming from a mile away, because he has no tridash.
Also, that Hsien-Ko thing was a joke.
That Shuma Gorath thing was basically theory.
And that Strange crap was just me typing in the middle of the night.
Aside from Viewtiful Joe and Hawkeye with the right assists, keep away in this game is just bad and tha’ts why Dr Strange sucks because he is a keep away character.
I might get flamed for this but I really still think Morrigan is a shitty character. She is mid tier at absolute best. Her pressure is weak and her amazing wall of plasma is only good with doom backing her up, right? The problem with that is that ANY beam or FAST full screen super (bionic arm, gimlet, shinku hadous from ryu and akuma, shockwave to DHC, spell of ashanti, or anything really fast puts that strategy on blast)
Burning XF early to wipe out doom in the back seems just fine to me. What is morrigan going to do in xf lvl 3 by herself? What is she going to do if she is being pressured? Nothing. Anyone with a fast full screen super destroys her. Viewtiful Joe and Hawkeye keep you in block stun so you can’t hit buttons or do things without getting punished while Morrigan relies on waiting for missiles.
Quite frankly, I don’t think Morrigan is that great either. The only problem is her astral vision interferes with some of said supers.
I don’t think that Strange is a keepaway character. I just think he’s a character that has to wait awhile before he gets to apply his 50/50s and can’t just mindlessly go in.
the answer is jill
inb4sheseasyjustgetcomfortablewithstance
Did you at least do some good research before coming to the conclusion that she is “shitty”. Do you use her? I think your understanding of her character is extremely limited and that you’re extremely biased against her.
You think that any beam or FAST full screen super will reduce her health (950K) to nil on hit? LOL. Do your characters somehow have unlimited amounts of meter to just throw away for FAST full screen supers? Unlikely. Do ALL characters have fast full screen supers? No. She is an incredibly safe character, so most of the time, full screen supers will just be blocked.
You know nothing about the character. Come back when you’ve done your research.
Morrigan not that great? I really can’t believe I am reading this.
I said Doctor Strange was one of the hardest characters to use. He isn’t really, lol, but his complexity comes more from his (lack of) practicality rather than his (pretty simple) execution (excluding flames of Faltine loops). He has a 4-frame standing light which is too high to hit a majority of the cast (although it would hit characters like Wesker and Vergil, they can duck underneath it by dashing). The rest of his normals have worse start-up, or even worse range (his poor 5-frame rapid cancel cr.L ) or bad recovery. He’s only safe specials are his L. Mystic sword (0 on block if I’m not mistaken), flames of the faltine (plus on block if I’m not mistaken again, lol), and graces of hoggath. He can’t perform any other actions after his air daggers of denaks, not even block, and he is unsafe ON HIT with his air Spell of Vishanti… His teleports are pretty decent, but they don’t cross up in the corner.
His safest hit confirms are the Impact Palm and the L- Mystic Sword. Other than that he needs an assist to use for his teleport mix-ups.
On hindsight, he isn’t really that hard to use, but that depends on how you want to use him. I find him most effective with a beam assist and teleports. Flowcharting, but he really isn’t designed to do anything else. I just think you need to find the most effective way to use a character. If you try to use Iron Fist as a keepaway character, you’re going to have a hard time with him lol.
I didn’t rate Morrigan before, until I increased my understanding of the game and played a couple of good Morrigans. She’s capable of both the Chris G style and rush down. She can make her blockstrings safe with her crouching H. and her airdashes and flight and unflight are some of the fastest in the game. When you use her, you’ll see her capabilities. I didn’t think so before, but I personally place her as an S-Tier.
Pfft! Jill? Just get comfortable with her stances!
Nah, kidding. Jill is probably the only character I can’t do anything beyond scrub combos with.
And, I like how he said “I might get flamed for this,” and then everybody comes and flames him.
If you guys think that Morrigan without astral vision and missiles is still really good, you’re wrong. Well, in my opinion attest. I play Firebrand/Dormammu/Ammy, or Strange/Dormammu/Hawkeye, or Spiderman/IronMan/Doom, but none of those teams are really weak against Morrigan outside of astral vision.
I completely forgot about rushdown Morrigan! I wonder why? [/sarcasm]
I’ve played against one good rushdown Morrigan, and it was a pain in the ass. If memory serves, shadow blade negates push blocks, and you’re just back into high/low mix ups. She makes me wanna pick her up, because her mixup potential reminds me of Painwheel.
Morrigan without Astral Vision is like a Spencer’s and Vergil’s players’ dream.
By the time you knock down Morrigan and Doom, You’re just all… IT’S OVER… =D.
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Haha everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but it’s funny how people will go for your neck if you say something they think was totally wrong lol. Still Morrigan may not always have hidden missiles, but she’s almost always guaranteed Astral Vision, especially since she can stupidly still build meter in it -_-. She’s got so many tools, like flight cancelling her salt fists and DP attack (forgot the name) amongst other things. And I’d say she’s arguably more dangerous when paired with hidden missiles than any other character with the same assist.
This thread is turning into a ‘how good a character is’ discussion now lol (still, I’ll give my opinion before I say we’re digress from the topic lol)