I personally am fond of Happ controlls mainly for two reasons a Happ warehouse is about an hour from where i live and they offer pickup and it brings back memories of feeding quarters into cabinets. I would like to see what other people prefer ive built several sticks now out of Happ controlls for friends co-workers and people ive met at local gamestops this site seems kinda bias tward jap parts im curious as to why ? granted this thread is more of a matter of personal opinion but fill me in whats the hype with the japanese parts ?
Mod please close this. No offense to the op but usually whenever these threads pop up, it usually starts a flame war.
im asking a simple question about what people prefer I personally havent had much exp with the jap parts so im kinda curious to what all the hype is about if it gets closed so be it i suppose im not intentionally try’n to pick a fight and seriously a flame war? is the maturity level of this site that low ? oh well if it gets closed it gets closed i suppose but i presumed that most of the modding community was mature enough to give me a their opinion without any arguement
Not really a flame war as there are only a few opinionated people here who will try to state their opinion as fact. But from everyone else, you will get the same answer: it all comes down to preference.
Also, Slagcoin is your friend for all your info on arcade parts: Joystick Controller - Joystick and Button Attributes and Brand Parts
And if you can read Polish or can piece together the Google translation, try Kowal’s godlike website on arcade parts: Czci Arcade
ah i see im fairly new to this site havent really posted much i realize that alot of the jap parts easily fit in to the retail sticks that are out there the only problem i honestly am having with my Happ controlls is it takes awhile for the parts to “break in” i was wondering if the jap parts are the same way i understand its a matter of personal preference
there should be happenese parts, i would use those 
Trust me it is nothing against you as i too believe it is just a simple question but everytime i have seen these threads they are usually derailed from the actual topic and turns into an ignorant war because some people think one is factually better than the other and dont actually listen to peoples opinions and start calling people stupid for liking one more than the other. Sorry if it seemed like i was making it your fault, that was not my intention at all. I just get tired of seeing threads where people get beat up for asking a question and stating their opinion.
The tech talk part of this site is probably the most mature out of all the sections but you still get those who like to dumb it down.
indeed 
the link posted above is/was somewhat helpfull yet still seems very bias tward japanese parts i suppose its a question i might never get answered till i break down and build a stick using said parts but for right now ill stick with happ i suppose my personal joystick is finally broke in after about 60 hours of play considering I build heavier larger cases i really only need about 3 inches inside the case to mount happ properly unless someone comes to me with some kinda crazy custom build where they want the worlds lightest joystick they will suffice i suppose too it is a matter of what part of the country or even country itself you grew up in but all my midwest customers seem to be pleased with the feel and quality of the sticks
i suppose this thread can be closed as of yet noone has actually given their opinion about what parts they prefer and untill my customers ask for otherwise ill just use happ controlls umm… thanks I guess
In a nutshell:
For the competitive fighting game community, Japanese buttons are regarded as the best due to it having the highest sensitivity, which is crucial in matches between two players who are trying their best to kick the crap out of each other quickly, and precisely (one frame link combos and such).
Happs are less sensitive because of the longer plunger, heavier spring and concave button design.
Of course, they most accurately represent the old school American arcade feel, so Happs are more suited to the MAME crowd.
Same thing with the Joysticks, Happs have a heavier spring, longer throw and mostly bat-top only, which doesn’t sit well if you have an unorthodox grip.
Some people can beast with Happ’s no doubt, but you’ll make it easier for yourself by getting used to Sanwa/Seimitsus
Why would someone prefer Japanese parts over American? Two words: precision and sensitivity, both of which Japanese parts have more of. And some people don’t want using the controls to feel like exercise. =P
American style parts are more stiff and built to take abuse.
i suppose both of you are right prehaps its just me but i have never had problems with dropped or missed imputs but its i guess what im used to from happ used to work in arcades when i was younger and spent many hours on happ controlls so it just feels right to me i will say that happ parts do take time to break in so i could see why some people might say they are more stiff than the japanese counterpart but thanks to alot of playtime and a lil help from my 2 year old nephew beating on the buttons im good to go
Sure man, go with whatever. I was just explaining it from a 100% technical standpoint. That’s all. Go bust some nuts online wit your new Happ, man 
As long as nothing starts, then I’ll leave this open. As soon as anything starts however, then say goodbye to the thread.
thanks d3v, my honest intention is to get mature personal opinions on the different parts which thus far im pleased with i realize that my personal opinion wont sway someone one way or the other just a simple question of what people perfer and why my local community demands happ controlls so like i stated previously i dont have much experince at all with japanese parts and Im honesly looking for three basic answers about these parts durrability(roughly how many hours played on them before replacement) form and function now the first of the three can vary depending on abuse taken but the other two are what im most concerned with not a single one of my customers to date has come back to me for replacement infact most have asked me to build another stick for them because of how durrable the happ controlls are
Joystick In comparison to Happ parts.
Durability. I think that a happ/iL wins that one, if you where to become abusive to the stick like how kids would slap and hammer fist shit in anger, the Happ Comp could take more abuse. If you are respectful to your stuff, you probably won’t need to change your Japanese stick for a year or five, depending on how you play.
Gate. Japanese parts come with square gates by default, and depending on model, there are round or octagon restrictor gates available. Square gates are easier to hit corners or find directions. The math below takes into account the length of the perimeter of a gate for engage zones.
People used to circular restriction complain all day about square gates, it is the biggest difference. It is a matter of preference. Charge characters such as Guile and Vega benefit from having a corner to hold down back, and the super motion for those two characters is easier to perform on a square gate.
The counter point is that some people have difficulty pulling off quarter and Half and Full Circle motions on a square gate. This can be over come with practice.
Spring stiffness. Japanese sticks tend to have less stiffness. It takes less force to activate a direction so in theory less energy used on quick precise actions.
Japanese sticks also have less deflection. Flick a Happ stick and watch it vibrate back and fourth with it’s large deflection. Japanese sticks don’t do that as much. Happ sticks are said to have a quicker or harder return to center, the reason why Marvel vs Capcom players stuck to it for combos needing a direction+button then a neutral button press. But many people have had no problem doing the same combos on an Agetec stick.
Buttons.
Typical Japanese buttons don’t click and require less then half the pressure to activate, and don’t come in concave. That and they are need to be mounted in a thinner panel, and come in snap in or screw in.
The other reason is portability. I’ve made some really small portable sticks with certain japanese parts.
Because of the heavy springs used in a Happ/iL stick and the higher over all case height, small micro cases with happ are harder to do.
I suggest that you try building one stick for yourself out of Japanese parts, and form your own opinion.
rtdzign, thats exactly the type of response i was looking for in this thread and i suppose sooner or later i will break down and build a stick using japanese parts most of my cases i currently use wont mount them very well not with countersinking the underside of the panel anyway im not against using them in anyway but i obviously do prefer happ controlls and i can see how you are correct when i was younger i had alot of trouble pulling off circular motions on the old arcade cabinets but ive used them for 20 years now so its not a big deal to me tho i have not had requests yet for the japanese parts im not against building one for myself to give it a whirl but for now my childproof happ stick will do just fine 
My current preference is skewing towards Happ mostly for the Perfect 360. I actually like this better than the ASCII optical I have (now up for sale for this reason) as w/out microswitches to provide some resistance I found it helpful to have a (much) stiffer spring to work against. Also IMO the best buttons are found on the Hori Namco PS1 stick and while I really like those buttons I’m not about to cannibalize one of those sticks just for the buttons so I’ll play on whatever buttons came with the stick. Now if you’ll excuse me I’ve got to set some barbed wire and land mines out in my yard and start hoarding food for when the 4-5 fools who’ve ruined the last 3+ threads of this nature show up and start a war.
i have to admit that is one tiny stick but i would find that thing very difficult to use lol im not exactly a lil guy or a kid anymore the stick i use now is huge i guess by most standards 16x12x4 inches with a good 3-4 inches between the joystick and buttons altho im using a modified 3 over 3 straight mount for my buttons with the other 2 slightly offset for ease of hitting with my pinky when need be
Yes that ministick case is 8.75 x 5.5 x 1.8 inches. At first it takes getting used to and I still prefer a full sized, but I can really still play just as effectively on it.
A small stick isn’t to match my stature, it is to be able to pack a laptop, clothes, and an arcade stick in my carry on luggage.