Edited thread title.
i diddnt mean to reflect that the size of your stick has something to do with your build the smallest so i hope i did not offend you the smallest case ive been able to mount with happ parts is 9x7x3 inches and thanks for the edit on the thread i diddnt mean to offend anyone either by the title of the thread as well i just was being lazy and diddnt want to type out the full names
Japanese style parts & button layout are far better than U.S Happ IMO.
Sanwa Vs Semitsu however? I dunno, only played on Sanwa.
Further comparison:
Buttons:
Happ makes two physical shapes for buttons, but three types:
Competition
- Convex plunger shape
- Low bezel height
- Microswitch activated by tab on bottom of plunger
Concave with Horizontal Microswitch
- Concave plunger shape
- Higher bezel height, but not as wide
- Microswitch activated by tab on bottom of plunger
Essentially the same as the Competition above in pressure needed to activate the switch, so it’s a matter of preference. Old-school arcade gamers here in the US will prefer the concave, as this is what they’re most used to.
‘Ultimate’ Pushbutton
- Concave plunger shape
- Plunger sits higher than a
- Same height and width bezel as concave button
- Microswitch vertical, activated by leaf on plunger
Despite being called the Ultimate Pushbutton, it’s anything but. Because of its design, the button itself is prone to breaking after enough presses. In contrast, the other two button types are essentially good forever, only needing microswitch replacement or cleaning as necessary. Further, because of this design, the button needs much more force to activate.
Joysticks:
Note: None of the Happ sticks use a restrictor plate, so they’ll all feel circular when pushed the whole distance.
Competition
- Square actuator
- Softest spring
Considered the best of the Happ sticks, this one uses a square piece of plastic to hit the switches directly. In the past, Happ simply distributed the iL Eurostick under the Competition label, but in more recent years, they’ve been producing their own in China. At first, the quality suffered, but newer sticks seem to be nearly as good.
Super
- Round actuator
- Firmer spring
- Switches activated by metal leaf.
I’m not sure how much use this one actually sees in US arcades anymore. However, a Chinese-branded clone is used in the stock Street Fighter Anniversary Edition stick. Needless to say, this isn’t exactly the highest-quality piece of equipment you can have, but it could work for a ‘beater’ stick.
Ultimate
- ???
I have zero experience with this stick, so I can’t say anything about it. If anyone has tried one of these, please speak up.
I actually use the Happ Ultimate stick in most of my builds unless someone requests otherwise its basicly a cheaper version of the competition stick uses a a lil bit stiffer spring built to last same basic functions as the comp stick but for a lower cost (roughly 10 usd cheaper than comp) but the quality is still there ultimate buttons are actually not too bad they will take quite a beating but as long as you’re not taking a hammer to them they will last quite a while some of my early sticks (built 4 years ago) use these buttons they are a lil bit harder to press at first but once broken in work just fine greasing them increases the life of the buttons and the people ive built sticks for using these componets havent had any problems to date with them competition buttons by happ are a better design but most of the people requesting ultimate buttons(note: simple mod to spring of these buttons decreases pressure require to activate the micro switch) from me have used them before so are used to the feel of the buttons and with several hundred hours of play time on them im not sure that the actual quality is any less than its “competition” counterpart this thread is all about opinions as I uses almost exculsively happ products in my builds dont really have a need to use the japanese counterparts tho I’ve gotten some great info thus far on them the next parts time someone is requesting a build i would see if they would be interested in trying the japanese parts but most of my customers are local “old skool” arcade players who live by Happ products
If you’re new to the site, read the stickies. The question has been done to total death over the last decade.
If you want people to read your posts, use paragraphs and punctuation. I can’t get past the first line of anything you write.
…,!!!<------ I figured that you ran out of those, so I brought some extra for you to use in your next post.
I suppose I can say thanks for the bump on this thread. And if you don’t like the way that i type don’t read it. as far as this topic being done to death… i don’t have the time to dig thru thousands of posts and pages when i could easily post a new thread asking peoples personal opinions. please keep things on topic on this thread. thus far i’ve got alot of good info but obviously a few people have felt the need to correct my grammer or spelling it would be different once again thanks to all of you who have posted some decent info and aparently enough people have been able to read what i’ve wrote to give me a relevent response and some exellent explainations of different parts and their functions that i haven’t had much experince with. thanks again
Naw dude I get what you are saying but it is pretty difficult to read your posts. You can just right click every word with a red line underneath them it will correct itself. And you don’t have to dig through thousands of posts to find out what is different about Happ and Sanwa either. This sticky on the top of the page:
http://shoryuken.com/f177/absolute-noobie-thread-now-more-faq-220429/
has what you were looking for.
You don’t have to be so defensive. Some people on this forum are assholes, but the rest of us are genuinely nice and want to help others. =)
I have read that thread not all of it obviously but first few pages didn’t really feel the need to read 100+ pages to get the same info i have from some of the posters on this thread. thanks again to all of you who have been on topic with their posts i appreciate the info its been quite helpful. but untill i get the demand for the japanese parts like i stated previously i suppose i will keep building with happ. tho i will be more inclined to suggest them in the future and leave the rest up to the consumer.
I’m 30 and grew up in the arcades on mainly Happ controls. They’re super stiff, and can flat out take more abuse than their Japanese counterparts.
I swapped over to Japanese parts in undergrad so 2000 maybe? Had custom DC sticks made and initially wanted Happ stuff (all I was playing was MvC2) but opted for Seimitsu after going into NYC and checking out different buttons in person. Sanwa are awesome, but after 20 years I still rest my fingers on buttons sometimes so I prefer Semitsu even now. Still sensitive in comparison but not feathertouch activated.
I’m not even going to weigh in on Joysticks. Read slagcoin till your eyes bleed red and head hurts from reading all of the variations and technical data. All of the possible info is there for you, take advantage and make your decisions.