It looks like only the EX, LP and MP slides go under projectiles with one exception: Sagats P TS can be avoided using all slides and his K TS can only be avoided by the EX slide. Oil seems to have no effect on this.
I was playing with Hakan over the weekend, and while Oil Dive’s properties are atrocious, it seems to me that once opponents know that you can crisco, it can be a decent mixup tool for opponents who will try to anticipate a ticked throw from a blocked slide and jump or backdash. Still a pretty atrocious tool, but I think that that at least it can be used that way.
I’m at the library at the moment, but I would love to try a whiffed light slide to heavy oil dive.
Any thoughts?
Also, thank you for this thread. It’s been really informative. So in essence, if I’m oiled up as Hakan, I can actually perform a chained blockstring?
is a blocked slide crisco into MP or c.MK a Blockstring? that would be awsome ^
I’m going to love experimenting with Hakan. I picked up El Fuerte because he was fun, in addition to my love for wrestling characters. Still hate that they didn’t put in R. Mika. Regardless, Hakan is “different”, and is probably why I want to play him. That, or silly characters (not Rufus silly) seem to attract me. From reading the details, technically, Hakan is E, Honda, but with a little more movement, along with having that Oil buff game going for him.
can anybody tell what’s his cross up it seems to be mk but thats only character specifc, does he have anything else that works ?
So far, that MK is all he has and it isn’t even a decent crossup. It’s like trying to get Zangief to crossup, which is already a feat in itself. If anything, you’re better off corpse hopping or simply staying on one side. Hakan’s a grappler, so when you’re close, you’ll want to use that instead of crossuping for combos. Cause frankly, Hakan is not a combo character.
Yeah I’ve never seen j.mk crossup. He doesn’t have any crossup as far as I can tell. If it does, its not worth it.
hmm… so when oiled up, you can do dash cancel into normal cancel into throw right?
best kara throw in the game WTF!
I just found that f+mp is special move cancellable. So f+mp xx slide combos and it’s pretty good as a 360+K set up.
Umm, knee or splash much? Short jump to splash for fake crossovers, off of 360k’s etc.
Cmon, once gief gets you down, the real game is crossup madness
Was about to say the same thing haha.
More dnc and focus dnc tricks: [media=youtube]_hPuOQq6KcY[/media].
Super impressive, SuperCrazyOmegatronUniversalMindControlDavid
(oiled) focus attack absorb, dash, to cr. :mk: xx slide is looking to be hella effective against 1-hit poker’s like Bison as well as fireballs.
Absorbing the jump-in’s and hitting their trip guard was cool also. 
Thanks, thanks.
Yeah, focus dnc to cr. mk xx slide was the vid I was gonna record on my next break.
Hakan has some massive potential when oiled. Being able to almost parry like you said in Trag’s thread is amazing. The timing isn’t that strict either which is really nice.
Is F+HP his farthest reaching normal? I would like to see at what range can I ‘petrol’ through a fireball and do damage. F+HK and F+MP would probably be good as well.
When I frst heard about the lvl1 dash canceled thats what i thought you guys initially were talking about(psuedo parry).
More Hakan labwork: [media=youtube]wsRkWIxCuVI[/media]
First: you actually can cancel a backdash with a normal, it just has to be early.
Second: using focus and dash normal canceling to dance around the screen while having a focus out most of the time
Third: focus, dash normal cancel it into cr. mk, buffer cr. mk into slide+followup
Fourth: you can input the followup to the slide immediately upon entering the command for the slide itself
This one’s a talkie, so you don’t really need to read this. There’s obviously a lot of work to be done in getting better at the 2nd and 3rd things and combining them with the things from Hakan Exhibition #2. This is just an early look at what’s to come.
lets be “Talki” and play Theory Fighter 4 Super
FA-DNC = Parry? for me it seems so ! therefor Hakan can Punish almost everything with a c.lk (fastest move he has OILED)
c.lk seems 3 Frames for me i hoped for 2 maybe im wrong?
Crisco is nice for finishing but i see not much advantage Hitconfirm Vs DashCancel Slide is almost the same or am i wrong? and DashCancel Slide is nice too Specialy with a c.lk imidetly after!
I heart UltraDavid :bgrin:
Can’t wait to see people using this stuff in matches :tup:
From what i can tell so far in testing is that the ex version of oil rocket has no invincibility should someone be jabbing or mashing anything you get hit out of it and without that im still not sure how to escape pressure with hakan.