Somebody asked me the other day how I felt about Shuma and his Match-ups.
I told him he really doesn’t have any REAL favorable matchups, its more if the opponent doesn’t know or understand what shuma does its a good matchup.
On the real though, Shuma vs Vergil is like 10-0 Vergil lol
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I will be flying out to Season’s Beatings, any shuma players there? I’m going to rock him there but I definitely have a pocket doom to swap shuma out for if things get rough.
Yeah I played against him. I don’t want to blame online, but I couldn’t finish a single shuma combo when my offline consistency is near 100%. Yeah though. Nigga says it’s in shuma’s favor, but I don’t feel like shuma has options. Once jill gets in, he has no defensive options to deal with her. His approach is also too linear vs somersault.
He thinks the matchup favors shuma?? Wow I wouldnt expect that. My internet connection is shit and I have 4 other roomates so my online experience is never good, but regardless I feel that against Jill all I could do was random c.M and s.H pokes and get lucky. Everything else shuma does gets killed by somersault and strider/frank assists make it hard to get stares or rays out.
On a slightly different topic, I feel out of the top tiered characters, Wesker Viper and Spencer are some of shuma’s best matchups (and by best I mean ones that he has a chance in), while characters like zero, magneto, vergil etc just shit all over him.
Sadly, true. Even though I play Shuma, I don’t know how to fight one.
I do think he can do okay against Nem/Hulk due to his multi-hitting moves vs. their armor, but if they decide to just throw instead of press buttons, it’s not in his favor. He has a metric ton of bad match-ups.
I am playing Shuma/Strange/Strider and I think it’s one of his better teams.
I think Sentinel could be a good matchup. He eats overheads all day as long as you can pin him down with an assist and also Shuma doesn´t really care about his armor.
Not worse than 5-5 for sure, but I´d even go as far and say it´s 5.5-4.5 for Shuma!!!
Yeah sentinel is in shuma’s favor. That’s just because sentinel has shitty matchups in general though.
Taskmaster, hawkeye, jill, wesker, magneto, and a bunch of others are just fucking horrid matchups for shuma.
I’m beginning to think Shuma/Wesker/Ammy might be the best overall point Shuma team. My Ammy’s trash though so I can’t play the team well at all, I prefer Dormammu.
I’m also beginning to think Mystic Ray is Wesker’s favorite assist after drones.
the problem is that while cold star is great for shuma’s mix-ups, it doesn’t really help him get in when he’s midscreen or farther, so you’ve got shuma’s biggest weakness of getting in paired with two assists that don’t help with that.
The team I’m working on right now is Shuma/Vergil/Sentinel. I hate having Sent on anchor, but the idea with the team is that every win should either be an ocv or vergil xfc2 kill. Shuma and Vergil have pretty amazing synergy - getting them to block a hyper mystic smash then dhc into devil trigger or swords basically gives you 4-5 mix-up opportunities and an easy kill, then you have vergil out with mystic ray assist backing him up which is pretty godlike. And of course nothing is better than drones for controlling space and keeping the opponent in blockstun for shuma to get in and get his mixups on.
I don’t think any matchup really favors shuma, and in terms of characters that are actually viable, the ones I think he has the best matchups against are Captain America and Spencer. I can’t think of anyone else good he does well against…maybe Wesker somewhat, until they realize they can super jump back gunshot the entire time (oh wait, that’s usually their main gameplan anyway…)
You should do a video tutorial on shuma’s tac shenanigans
Theoretically you could Devitalize the gunshots while charging a ray and fire it off as he jumps up again. Easier said than done though, Devitalization is such a lazy “counter.” It’s great defensively but does nothing to help Shuma actually punish the opponent if he needs to.
IMO Shuma’s best matchups against the higher tiered characters are Spencer and Nova. Wesker is about 50/50 depending on the Wesker’s play style, Dante isn’t too bad for Shuma, but Zero, Magneto, Hawkeye, Vergil, Task, VIper are all extremely hard.
I usually perform pretty well against Weskers. I agree that it is one of his best match-ups.
Characters like Zero and Dark Phoenix are fucking impossible to beat with Shuma-Gorath, though. Their hitboxes have such ridiculous range that Shuma-Gorath can’t even TOUCH them. You can’t even trade hits with them.
I actually think Shuma is pretty good against a lot of the characters who’s neutral game is mostly played on the ground. I think he’s good against Taskmaster, Wesker, Spencer and Vergil.
The Zero and Magneto types are no joke though…
Edit: I think best Shuma point team is Shuma/Spencer/Doom(PlasmaBeam). I may be biased though because I play this team xD
with shuma on your team they shouldn’t ever reach 5 meters due to TAC silliness. and if they do, you XF cancel chaos dimension and bite her flaming ass the moment she does go black. just make sure to anticipate their own XF activation to time it right and she is guaranteed to be double dead.
I’m still waiting for the replay where a shuma just walks up and KOs a phoenix with 5 meters with a regular throw. suck the dark right out of her
Yeah, that would be cool. Unfortunately, I’m not even close to being good enough to pull off something like that. It doesn’t help that I play online, too.
haha i’ve done that, a guy here use to play Phoenix… not anymore.
I agree that shuma is so Anti-Phoenix its sick. If hes first he can snap and mix her up/lv3 her or if hes in the back you can tac gimmick him.
I dunno, if you’re using Doom, you might as well use missiles, especially with Shuma as you get the space control and the lockdown. Plasma beam you lose out big on space control in terms of characters like doom, magneto, storm running away from you at super jump height, and the beam is so fast it doesn’t lock the opponent down that long.
Yeah fighting phoenix is so fun…just get her down around half life, throw her xx death. I did this online last night and the guy started screaming, thought the game had glitched out when he didnt transform
My favorite anti Phoenix setup is to kill her with Stare then Chaos Dimension through the pulse. Worst case scenario she has bombs on her with a Chaos Dimension-ready Shuma in her face, pretty much sealing her doom since she’ll have to deal with bombs exploding eventually. Hell if you’re fast you can XF cancel the bite and grab her midair out of hitstun.
Except wesker can just sj gunshot and negate 90% of his offense. It’s a sad tale indeed. Taskmaster should completely shit on shuma. He outprioritizes any of his linear approach and can easily force him to do stupid mistakes by zoning him. He also has a retarded grab os that will grab the little nigga outta mystic smash. It is not a good match up. That team is okay.
It doesn’t help that you’re playing damn vanilla either.
How do you all deal with the incredible derp of Mr. “baby’s first hit confirm” Nova + horizontal (hawkeye, doom, frank, etc) assist? That shit online is so infuriatingly simple but derpingly good. The only way to deal with it is to play extremely cautious and smart, but if i go for an air grab against air dash forward b mashing nova (seriously, what nova does not do this) I either get grabbed with no tech, they tech out of it, or I get hit with j.H because shuma’s air OS isn’t great. Stay on the ground to try to anti air with c.H, get hit by assist. I play some really good Nova players from time to time and with a horizontal assist it feels pretty damn hard for shuma even if I have my own good assists. Any advice?