H. P. Lovecraft would be proud - The Shuma-Gorath thread!

I got the game (three days early in the UK, heh) and Shuma can indeed OTG with supers after a j.S. This also means instant overheads into super and you could even call an OTG assist before you do it for a follow up combo. His free alt costume is pretty cool too.

So for his Level 3, the mashing to do more damage is kind of a niche.

Every time I tried a launcher after the bite and then level 3’d, mashing didn’t do more damage. But if you hit him with heavy directly after bite, mashing did do more damage.

EDIT: On more testing, it turns out that only the grounded level 3 can be mashed.

Shuma has literally jumped a tier in ultimate, I’m sticking to ground loops and ending with a hard knockdown J.S and following up with HMR or Chaos Dimension (ground). He’s so much more viable. Also Strange’s Bolts of Bolthakk are perfect for Shuma. They come out slow and give you enough time to High/low mix up. Iron Fist’s crescent heel is a great OTG follow up as well.

I agree. Iron Fist’s OTG leaves them so low to the ground, you can do so much.

Also, Red Shuma’s teeth look like zippers.

Omg Shuma’s command grab is SICK. The corner follow ups do so much damage. With An OTG assist mid combo I could get 700k 1 bar with it. Too bad it looks like no OTG assist comes out fast enough to hit them, but on fat characters, a mash Hyper Mystic Smash (Hyper Mystic Mash :p) can get 500k, which is amazing.

guys… I’m almost 100% certain Devitalization got a range boost. A GOOD RANGE BOOST

I was grabbing people past his actual tentacles with the H version, and the L version was just plain silly. I’d compare it’s range to Felicia’s Command grab, and we all know how good Felicia’s command grab is (IE. Godlike)

you know, after finally getting my hands on him, I’m willing to admit I was wrong. Shumas gonna be fine guys.

Shuma got buffed.

Felicia on Shuma reminded me of Cartman riding Cthulhu. :lol:

Boy, do I hope that you and the rest are right and not just being delusional because of wanting him to be better so bad.

Haha!

I was testing ways to combo j.S midscreen and I found an odd property that will hurt it’s usefulness. Basically, if you do a launcher into an air combo, land, then hit them with j.S, it actually knocks them away rather than straight down, making it impossible to follow up midscreen.

It’s probably because the opponent didn’t touch the ground yet. Once you hit them with a launcher, they have to hit the ground to exit the launcher state.

That makes sense. I guess launchers are a no go then in this case.

Silly people, All you have to do is a basic Cr.H J.M J.H J.H J.M J.H J.H J.M J.H J.S Hyper Mystic Smash to get an easy 500k ANYWHERE.
Man I love this new Shuma, once I learn Dr.Strange my team will be sooooooooooo beastin.

I still like to go for more damage if possible so I always try to shoot for mystic stare combos. 500K is alright but I like doing 600K.

does mystic ray connect after devitilazation? I can only get it to work with xfactor

It works, try to do it a split second before the camera zooms out.

So what did shuma really get from these buffs? A nice command grab, more damage, easier combos. But did his old weaknesses still remain untouched? How does he fare for getting in on the opponent now? Priority, etc.

dont call it a comeback, its been here for years (months)

Just fiddling around with air X factor and found out that Shuma can X factor while he’s falling in jumping S. Then you’re able to Mystic Smash M and land right next to them.

This can be applied in a number of ways:
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The more options, the better. If you don’t have mystic stare attached mid combo, you can still do the same thing but Hyper Mystic Ray them in OTG. Strict timing though.

Shuma has the best air x-factor animation. Wow.

I’ve essentially given up on combos that use Mystic stare outside of a corner. The move is totally unreliable in the slightest of lag situations. For my combos I stick to using Shuma’s guaranteed to hit normals. Also you have to remember that 3/4ths of the cast have HP under 1 million. A reliable 500k bnb is pretty good in a wide spectrum. Also the combo I listed earlier can have a damage buff to 900k if you use an OTG assist instead of HMS and use Chaos Dimension.

Yes he does.