Gyah Kita Ki (My demon brethren): The Firebrand teams and assists thread

I’m running Firebrand/Dorm/Ammy and they all work well together. Firebrand works well with Ammy’s and Dorm’s assists. I can get a kill+unblockable setup off of a BnB with a reset in it then DHCing to Stalking Flare. Next character comes in and is stuck in blockstun from Stalking Flare and Cold Star.

Dorm can use Firebrands spitfire assist for use in combos by doing OTG flame carpet+FB spitfire assist to get a relaunch. Ammy doesn’t get too much out of FB’s assist but Dorm’s is still fairly useful to her. She can also DHC into and out of anyone else’s super. Her vale of mist super can also help for unblockable setups.

Just about every character works pretty well in any slot too. They’re all good on point, all good second, and all can be good anchors.

Has anyone had any success with MODOK & Firebrand together on a team?

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trying to make dormammu/firebrand/sentinel work.
it seems to be pretty good for obvious reasons, my dormammu is meh so far though lol.
any hit from dormmammu should kill a wesker in 1 hit if youre close to the corner (magic series, relaunch with firebrand assist, slam down stalking flare, dhc to luminous body, unblockable…combo.) but the setup doesnt work really if youre not in the corner, so thats unfortunate. but the pretty safe dhc options between dorm and firebrand are still good. and obviously sentinel drones does a lot for firebrand. all charcaters like ironfist, she hulk, nemesis, etc…charcaters that dont have options on incoming besides to land first are free to the call sentinel drones, charge unblockable setup.

Since Firebrand is my usual point character at present, and being the newest member of my “mains” roster as of the launch for Ultimate, I suppose it’s appropriate to put forward my team here. Unless I feel I need to change it up a little for match-ups reasons or the like, my current order is Firebrand/Super-Skrull/Trish.
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[]DHCs work best with this order, especially on the rare occasion where I have a ton of meter - with Trish on the end, I can use all 5 meters in one combo if need be, since Round Harvest can combo into Air Maximum Voltage, then that into another super. And with Firebrand on point, ensuring deaths in the corner is a guarantee thanks to Bon Voyage.
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]Both assists benefit Firebrand: I hardly need to detail why Tenderizer is such a strong assist for Firebrand (coughlockdowncoughunblockablescough) and Maximum Voltage serves two fairly useful functions: it can add to Firebrand’s surprisingly decent zoning game of Hell Spitfire spam with some extra ground clearance, and is good cover for approaches, including grounded Bon Voyage - the dashing motion actually removes Trish from view of the game camera, meaning any attempt to punish other a throw will almost always fail. Sometimes, sadly, the projectile follows a successful hit and knocks the opponent down early, but at worst, my opponent is at least in the corner.
[]Firebrand’s Swoop assist has utility as a defensive assist, especially for covering all variants of Super-Skrull’s Elastic Slam. It’s not Jam session, but whatevs.
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]Super-Skrull and Trish are arguably my best characters, so I at least have my main pair to fall back on if Firebrand struggles. I’m still learning with him, after all.
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In other news, when I go for a snapback/incoming unblockable set-up, I’ve been learning to anticipate my opponent not guarding Tenderizer. I found the easiest way for me to convert that into a combo is by releasing Swoop early and tagging on j.:h:j.:d::h: after flying up an inch or two. This has been fairly consistent, whichever side of my opponent Firebrand ends up.

On a side note, am I the only one who reads the thread title with a jamaica accent? Like when I see “brethren”, I can’t read it without a jamaican accent. All the OP needs to do is change to to Me demon brethren and we have ourselves a rasta gargoyle.

^ Cannot unhear. :frowning:

I want my FB to beat anyone just like my Thor and Nemesis already do in their respective teams. So i’m trying different teams with the characters i play (Dormmamu, Arthur, Hsien-ko, Strange, Thor, Ammy, Wesker, Nemesis, Hulk, Chris, Akuma, etc). I have come up to the following conclusions:

  1. After of a cr.L, cr.H, s.S, superjump, j.MMH, bon voyage, s.H, s.S, j.MMH, devil claw, hell dive L, s.H, assist call, there is a chance to make an unavoidable reset with the right assist and a fully charged Demon missile H. It is indeed unavoidable if FB is backed up by Hsien-ko sempu bu in hyper armor. Purification works if the opponent blocks, Super skrull assist also works (i dont like S-K though), haven’t tested Strange Eye of Agamotto, but will do it later today. The problem with Hsien-ko is, she has to activate Rimoukon prior, and if everything goes wrong, she is not the best anchor >_>.

  2. FB assists are very bad. He is best played on point as a battery character. I dont even know what’s a better assist for Dormammu out of the three (demon missile M allows a relaunch in the corner, as well as fire ball H, but i never try it, it’s inconsistent).

  3. There are some hypers and THC that allow a free fully charged Demon missile H. Out of the characters i mentioned: Stalking flare, Tenrai ha on a standing character, Okami shuffle THC, gamma quake, goddess bracelet THC, etc.

Anymore unblockable set-up ideas? What characters are considered Firebrand BFF at the moment?

Serp, Thor is my main character. With that said I’m working on running Firebrand/Thor/Skrull. Firebrand is a character that should easily get the first hit in if you know what you’re doing. To up Firebrands damage it’s nice to get TAC up into Thor (off the down H snap trick) and land his Mighty Spark M, MS H and then Thornado for a pretty decent amount of damage. I talked a little about this in the combo thread. I haven’t had much time to play this game recently but there is some good possibilities with this in Thor’s reset capabilities too, I just haven’t explored it much. Try it out. I feel they work well together.

I’ve been thinking of making a Firebrand team that best utilizes unblockables and unblockable resets. I’ve pretty much decided that I’m going to need hidden missiles since they seem to work very well in said resets. Who do you guys think would fit best as a third for this team? I’m seeing a lot of Ammy here so she’s probably the most obvious choice. She’s a good partner for Doom and a pretty good anchor by herself. Should I work on this team or is there other builds I should consider?

Has anyone came with any combos for dante with firebrands otg assist? I’m having trouble finding some.

Some partners that help set up unblockables are…

Ammy Cold Star (Best assist IMO)
Doom Missiles
Sentinel Drones
Dante Jam Session
Skrull Tenderizer

There are more assist in certain situations, but those are undoubtedly the easiest.

I suggest either Firebrand/Doom Missiles/Ammy Cold Star (Like you said) or Firebrand/Sentinel drones/Ammy cold star. These 2 teams allow not only non-stop unblockables from damn near any position, but they have powerful DHC’s and solid THCs.

Thanks for the suggestions! I’ll probably go with Firebrand/Doom/Ammy since it seems like a really fun team and it’ll be a nice way to take me out of my comfort zone.

Does jam session only set-up the unblockable in the corner? I can’t get it to work midscreen.
edit: nevermind

Will a team consisting of X-23/Firebrand/Hawkeye work out?

Do you think pairing our demon friend with an invincible CC could mitigate his lack of “panic buttons?” If so, I think Firebrand-α / Zero-α / Dante-α would be pretty disgusting.

I noticed someone posted this question on the last page, but it went unanswered… who fits well with Firebrand/Amaterasu? What assists go well with Firebrand (besides the obvious lockdown assist) ?

I also noticed that someone posted the team Firebrand/Skrull/Amaterasu on the last page and that it sounds like a great team, but why? Doesn’t it seem like Firebrand would have 2x lockdown assists and it would be a little redundant? (I really want to know because I love Skrull so fitting him in and playing this team would be great!)

Ammy has a meter building assist too so you can perpetuate the snapback loop, plus they’re both good anchor characters that can work un-assisted.

IIRC Amaterasu’s meter assist is really bad because it’s so slow, so Morrigan would make more sense in that spot because she can be a good anchor too.

But then either Skrull or Morrigan (whoever is second) would have to play with a fairly useless assist and without XF3 if Firebrand died…

Ammy’s meter assist has 180/150 frames of recovery to itself/your other assist … Morrigan’s has 110/80. That’s a profound difference, to the point where you’re better off just running Cold Star to help FB’s neutral game.

Morrigan’s also builds a larger amount of meter, iirc. I think Ammy’s is 25% and Morrigan’s is 30%.