And yet it’s even moreso erroneous to attempt to simplify the situation and pin it on the supposed evil misogynistic men of the world, which is precisely what a significant portion of the media is doing (not saying you’re doing this because I know you’re not)
It’s really whatever. This shouldn’t have sparked as much of a gender “issue” as it has. Nothing will really change until either side stops looking at it as a man vs woman issue.
I read a bit further in the manifesto, he hasn’t exactly gotten to the point where he’s obsessing over girls, but I don’t think girls were the root of the overall issue, The guy mentions early on that after his parents divorced and he saw his dad with a new gf quick, he assumed because he dad was rich and nice that’s all it took, I’ll get back to this later. But it seems that he struggled with trying to be “cool” he was able to maintain friends, but maintaining them or initiating social shit was something he lacked skill in. To make it even worse as you guys mentioned about his absent dad, his dad wasn’t really doing fatherly shit and teaching him about stuff.
Hes in middle school where im at now, and hes still struggling with being “cool” and fitting in, hes raging at the guys who have lots of female friends, and hes thinking that because hes dressing well, and does cool shit like skateboard and etc that he should be cool too. But he still has acquantainces but no real group of a friends to hang out with at school. he was extremely lacking social skills, and was tooooooooooo focused on social ladder status. This is lterally a case of “oh shit the cool guys are doing this? I gotta do it too” For anyone who doesn’t wanna take the time to read I’ll drop more info, because im sure everyone at somepoint has that weird adjustment of bouncing from elementary to middle school especially if at a new school. I went to 4 diff middle schools and that shit can be annoying, but its whatever.
Don’t agree with all of this, but he gets a ton of stuff on point,
after perusing a bit of his manifesto i’m 100% convinced he was gay. he spends way more time describing men and how they look than women
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Don’t agree with all of this, but he gets a ton of stuff on point,
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His manifesto reveals him to be a entitled,egocentric,insecure,sexually frustrated awkward outcast who wanted to destroy the very concept of sex. The converging factors that lead to his eventual murders were all innate, his psychology eroded naturally due to his already unstable mental health. There is no bogeyman to point to to explain or justify his actions…the man was crazy in the same way Joanna Dennehy was nutty. He most likely thrived off the indulgence of people attempting to uncover his motives when by all accounts it’s quite clear this guy just wasn’t right for quite a long time.
The only people who really want to find a alternative explanation are the ones interested in click bait articles blaming pornography for his entitlement.
Wait, wait wait.
You guys want to make single motherhood ILLEGAL? What the fuck am I reading?
I’d rather all Parenthood be illegal. Atleast for a few years. Or make it Illegal every time someones piece of shit seed does this shit for a few years so people learn to care about raising a decent human being instead of sitting them in front of the Teevee looky box for 18 years straight then throw them out into the world.
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Six minute version:
[/quote]Yeah the above data I quoted hurts the black population the most. 70% is insane…
I’m all for single motherhood being legal…as long as I’m not subsidizing it.
It’s kindof hard for me to take a chest thumping “strong independent woman who don’t need a man for shit” seriously when she’s prospering with the help of WIC, SNAP, TANF, Educational/Shelter programs for single mothers and so on and so forth.
You know seeing at how he mentions he never had any desire in females sexually but just wanted them to be around him because it was cool i might be able to agree. Im still reading. But he talks about how he wasn’t interested in girls and he’s in 6th grade, atleast all my childhood, i was able to recognize and be attracted to girls, not on a sexual level and i probably didn’t nderstand it, but in like what like 4th or 5th grade we were starting to actually check out girls and started to get passed that boys play with boys, girls play with girls stuff.
So yeah dude could have been gay and was in STRONG denial or didn’t know or understand it, because he was so fixated on trying to be the ultimate human.
And idk if you guys have played Persona 4, but this shit kinda reminds me of Kanji…
It’s a terrible thing that he lost his son, but I question if his opinion would be different if his son was one of the stabbed victims
-obviously a larger set of issues at hand
Shit I was dreaming about getting pussy at like age 7. Didn’t even know what it looked like but I knew I wanted it lol.
I think the theory that he was gay is a good one. That also explains why he was such a feminist and didn’t think these other dudes should be sleeping with women. Deep down he wanted those dudes himself.
Read the data above, and suggest solutions that address it directly.
Ok are people really disputing that the dude was a misogynist who hated women and that’s what fueled this rampage? The dude posted on puahate. I was first discovered puahate when I was browsing the internets and some troll kept whining about how he couldn’t get laid because girls only liked good looking guys (it was not the killer btw but one quite similar to him). Someone said, “ignore him he posts on puahate”. Curious I opened up a new tab and checked it out, only to close it afterward because it was a cesspool. The average dude on puahate complains that women are sluts, which is a contradiction because they also complain that women won’t sleep with them. If women are so easy, why aren’t they getting any?. Its this cognitive dissonance that makes them rage so hard. So they make excuses. “Its because I’m ugly!”
So that’s why this guy got so mad when “ugly” asian dudes were scoring white girls. It challenged his world view, which said that the blame lay entirely on the woman’s shoulders. If he had followed things to their logical conclusion, he would have realized that the reason he couldn’t get anybody was because he was a murderous piece of shit. That would have shattered his fragile ego. So he directed his rage at women, for sleeping with “ugly” men. He directed his hatred toward the men as well, because they served as constant reminders that actually the problem was not the women, but with him. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he felt like men and women were all conspiring against him. The majority of the guys he murdered were his roommates, who he needed to get rid of so he could set up his apartment torture chamber. I think the other guy was one of the popular guys at school that was getting laid a lot. So his victims are entirely consistent with his misogyny. I also wouldn’t be surprised if his roommates kept calling him out on his shit and saying that girls didn’t like him because he was a creepy loser. They might also have been sleeping with white women, which of course would make him rage harder.
But I don’t think misogyny was the root problem. Why was he a misogynist? This is going to sound like a stretch, but the problem has a lot to do with the materialistic and superficial society of american capitalism. Capitalism FEEDS off of making you feel inadequate.
“You suck, buy this car”
“You’re ugly, buy these clothes”
“Hey if you use axe body spray, you’ll get laid”
“Get the new ipad, your current one is obsolete noob!”
The worst things about these ads is they promise instant gratification. Instead of working hard on developing yourself as a person, you can just go out and buy something to “fix” your supposed problems. Meanwhile, pop music and hollywood movies all stress that men DESERVE a hot 10, and that if you as a man are not fucking a different hot woman every week, you are a loser. Basically, there is tremendous pressure on guys who are barraged at every corner with constant reminders that they simply don’t measure up. This kind of crap is not good for your mental health. Capitalism not only makes you a slave to debt, it makes you depressed. You get a temporary high from a purchase, but then you want to the next new and improved version once you see someone more successful than you buying it. The more you have, the more sad you are. It never ends. If everyone in the world was happy with their life, the economy would collapse immediately. So its in the corporate plutocracy’s best interest to make you feel like a failure. I can’t prove any of this because its just speculation, but I feel like that’s why the USA produces all these mass murderers, despite having the highest GDP.
To fix this, don’t be materialistic. Put those corporations out of business. Don’t shop at places like Walmart that shit on their employees while the owners are billionaires. Don’t vote for the shitty politicians who get in bed with the corporations. Vote for serious campaign finance reform, so that businesses can no longer buy out judges. Don’t fall for this fake left/right dichotomy. They both serve the same masters. There is hope, but everyone has to work together. Now I don’t think there’s much hope, so that’s why I like many others seek financial independence so we can escape this brutal game.
edit: and since the NSA is reading everything, just for the record I am not a communist, my parents left communist china because it was awful. I just think that capitalism, specifically the banking sector, needs some serious checks on its power.
Doesn’t seem like a solution.
You jail the mother, put kid in child protective service? Or Foster homes. Of which there won’t be enough guardians or services there since there aren’t now.
Not add a father to existing cases.
You’re really going to have to say more to explain what you mean. Like who -is come down on with the justice system- on this. Terrible sentence but you know what I mean. Its “illegal” so who is punished. Keep your family together or else? Something with other family to take up the slack in raising a kid so nobody is breaking the law? Preventing people from having kids?