Everybody is eager to twist this into their own agenda at this point.
Nobody wants to consider that maybe the society that they contribute to on a daily basis might just actually have a part to play in all of this.
I mean why would it? That would mean that people would have to actually take responsibility for the things they do and say for once and who wants to do something as retarded as that?
I don’t post on SRK much because its no longer as entertaining. Here’s my two cents.
Virgin is used as a putdown by other guys all the time on the internet. Of course there’s pressure to get laid, its coming from other dudes who try to demean and devalue others. Meanwhile, at the same time, forums are filled with dudes who brag about how easy it is to “bang sluts” at parties and clubs, trying to prove how awesome they are to a bunch of strangers that they’ve never met and never will meet. “Look at me I’m an alpha male!” This killer is basically a byproduct of that culture. He stared too long into the abyss and the abyss stared back into him. He started perpetuating the culture by putting down others for being undesirable, despite being a virgin himself. He felt he was entitled to all this easy pussy because everyone on the internets said it was easy. He never realized that most people on the internets are full of shit. What he should have done instead was take a break from the internet, or at least post on forums where such trolling is heavily moderated.
Regarding the platitude: “Be yourself”. The problem with most PUA is it teaches a bunch of gimmicks and opening lines as a way into tricking women into sleeping with you. Problem is, that stuff comes off as really creepy and fake. Most women see through the facade. The ones who don’t eventually realize something is amiss. Its better to be genuine and find someone who actually likes you for who you are. You don’t want to be someone you’re not. Even if this means being alone for awhile, that’s okay. The extra free time can be spent on personal growth and development.
Related to point #2 is that somehow money is a substitute for personality. Poor people get girls all the time. At first I thought it was just white dudes working at mcdonalds getting laid by successful asian girls who had white fetish. While that certainly happens, its not just limited to that. For one thing, a lot of women make more money than men now. Men simply aren’t the bread winners anymore, especially the ones who can’t land a white collar job. Its only a big deal because dudes feel insecure because they aren’t fulfilling their traditional gender role. Here’s the thing. In the greater seattle area, everyone and their mother (literally) drives a BMW/Audi/Lexus. Its not a big deal and girls are pretty desensitized to it. The low end BMWs cost about 40k, which is about the cost of a fully decked out toyota camry. A car can certainly help you get laid, but you run the risk of attracting the wrong type of woman. I drove my faithful Honda Accord for over a decade when it finally broke down one too many times and I decided to buy a BMW in 2011. I wanted to get something nice for myself, but looking back what I should have done was just buy a Hyundai instead and used the left over money as a down payment on a cheap rental property. That extra income would have made me that much closer to financial independence, and if I had sold it now, I could have gotten a 5 series instead of a 3 series, with money left over to reinvest. Don’t buy into materialism and learn to delay short term gratification for long term financial success. Materialism and consumerism makes you a slave.
I haven’t noticed much difference before and after in terms of dating. Sure you can say I don’t have game and that it’d be so easy for you. But I’m looking for a specific type of woman. When I drove my ancient beat up Honda, the girls I was with knew I was saving my money so that I could gain financial independence and that I would buy a nicer car once I was financially ready. My current girlfriend also understands I could buy a much nicer car, but that it wouldn’t be a wise use of my money. Again, you don’t want to attract the wrong type of woman who is with you for the wrong reasons. Better to drive a shitty car and have plenty of cash to invest. A woman who understands this is a true treasure.
Hating asian dudes for scoring with white women? That’s like hating on people who win an mvc2 tournament with Hayato and Amingo. According to the news he killed a bunch of Chinese guys, including his roommates. What a fucker.
There are a lot of creepy dudes on SRK such as million who give off creepy serial killer vibes, which I’ve pointed out many times before. We’ll see what happens.
Million talks about licking the toilet seats of hot women. So horrid.
The house and cars and money to girls is nbd. What matters really is if you both get along and care about each other. Some Girls will fuck a jobless loser because he is cute. That’s the truth. They are as shallow as we are.
But this guy didn’t get laid because he was a creep. Why did he hate asian guys so much? Does he catch his asian mom banging an asian guy. Was his sister’s first boyfriend asian?
He had everything going for him if he was a normal mentally balanced dude. He wasn’t.
Why would that be shallow? You have some strange views on sex. Sex is something to do for fun because it feels good. There isn’t some more “noble” cause behind it and some magical friendship and caring Captain America summoning that goes on. If it didn’t feel good nobody would want to do it.
Hell, maybe you’re the shallow one. “That guy is a jobless loser! I am better than him!” is about as shallow as it gets. The situation you are describing is the opposite of shallow. Shallow is having sex only because you are looking at another human being as a bank account or their job description. I hate people like that honestly. I don’t like to take too many things seriously, but people like that do annoy me.
But usually money matters. There are some exceptions, but I don’t think those are really that common. 96% of women say they would not date a man that is unemployed. http://business.time.com/2012/06/29/no-job-no-date-for-you/ The numbers are different on that one, but it’s the quickest google search source I could find for people. There are better, more recent, more involved ones I don’t have the time to find. Poverty also kills sex drive in males. Heck that could be why this Elliot dude was so desperate, if he was just really poor he’d be more worried about putting food on the table to care about getting laid by some hot blonde.
For me personally money makes a huge difference. With money and time you can be in better shape, dress better, eat better, use supplements etc. Then when it comes to dating you can choose more fun locations and even take a few days off. Dudes hanging out on their yachts with super models certainly are able to do that because of wealth.
As fishjie says I certainly don’t think it’s THAT easy no matter what. For men there is still a work element needed. It takes awhile for most men to really develop that type of ability. Some of us have it more naturally, but most of us need a lot of things to fall in place in our lives before sex really becomes accessible to us. And in all honesty most people still exaggerate the amount of sex they have. To really have consistent sex to satisfy the male libido if you’re somewhat young would probably require at least 4-5 different women, as most women don’t even want to have sex multiple times a week let alone a day. Well, especially American women, it’s not so bad with some foreigners.
He felt like he was entitled because he was used to having everything handed to him by his rich parents.
The kid never had to try to survive in his life, when some people work day and night just so that they can have something to eat, so it’s not something he can understand.
I have read some of his material on other forums and he looked like he was trolling. It’s sad to see that he was serious.
Only someone weak would kill himself over something as meaningless as forum posts.
Except it is the point. When your framing a series of murders as a"misogynistic attack"but 4 of the 7 victims are men…it would be like excluding all the male victims of 9/11 and saying it wasn’t a terrorist attack but rather a attack on women. You can’t just conveniently pretend those men didn’t exist or that their lives had no value.
All the majors outlets are purposefully neglecting to mention the specific gender of the 7 people who a were killed…hmmm how strange especially when the topic of misogyny is brought directly into these articles and when you have shit like this all over social media.
I think we all know exactly what the"bigger picture" is.
Apparently, none of this would have happened if there were more sexual options for men out there, which is odd considering that humans were “born” with a sexual option, and this kid had two hands and a penis. Then again, if an individual masturbates then he’s a lonely fuck, and then you have those who’ll justify it with not “whoring around” and catching an STD. However, considering that the other person is getting laid, you can’t really beat that with jerking off when the other person is now “socially acceptable”. That’s why I lie when people ask me if I fap.
Why are people asking you? I bet it’s mostly other males that ask though. Men in the US are absolute pussies, they just try to shame each other like they’re taught to by the matriarchy. It’s almost like a weeding out process, the men that separate themselves from the average mangina and mock them tend to be more attractive to women, because women really have no sexual interest in white knights and manginas.
Almost all healthy men masturbate. The frequency simply lowers the older you get. It’s also a power ploy by women because they are the gatekeepers of sex, and they love to use access to sex as a means of power. The vast majority of men are not going to force themselves onto a woman that clearly denies sex, but a lot of women like to arouse a man and then deny them, or otherwise claim they were raped afterwards. That’s too bad for those men that get caught up in that, but that’s why you really need to have multiple women accessible to you and to also masturbate when needed.
It’s not the murders themselves that are the focus (but it’s not like we’re ignoring the victims here either as if they’re unimportant), but rather the misogynistic things he was saying and how he thinks. Like others have said, the guy had huge entitlement issues due to the way he was raised and our societal pressure to “be a man”.