Guy AE v.2012 Changes Thread

Appears the final changes will be here shortly. Here’s to hoping.

Everything form before still in, nothing was added but details on the hitbox for j mp and j hk, they are extended upwards downwards and towards the opponent

nj hp extended upwards and downwards

Apparently,no additional change.

U2 will be a lot more versatile in matches since a lot of characters FADCs on block from DPs will leave them at disadvantage, which can shut a lot of people down, and hopefully the grab range is good.

lol I don’t think I’ll waste my energy asking capcom to listen anymore…at least guy will have less flaws and easier execution. If only they fixed target combo and buffed cr,hk, he would be much better. Looking forward to using ultra 2 again.

I’m also very disappointed.
There was no reason for not fixing the target combo…other characters like Dudley, Cody, Dee Jay, Oni and Gouken got beast buffs…they could have made the roundhouse and BSK at least a bit more safe…
Well…I don’t even know what to say…

Cody’s main buffs were to his knife attacks to have players use it more, and a better movement ability, but what really disappoints me is the TC buff they gave to Ken, not only did he get the bigger hitbox so it hits almost all if not all crouchers he can delay the HP so he can reassure to get the TC to hit or even frame trap even?. Just wtf capcom.

wait wtf they didn’t fix TC whiffing? man i lose a lot of match whiffing TC vs mashing ryu and got lol pro DP FADC ULTRA herpaderpa

but hey at least nj.HP after runslide will be good.

I main Dudley and I can assure you that we haven’t received not even 1 single relevant change we asked for. 3F non invincible DP will surely improve our wake up, 5 buffs on his neutral/diagonal light jabs/kicks will make him literally the best air to air character, and a full screen thunderbolt will surely fuck up everyone.

See pretty much all of the other character boards are saying the same thing: irrelevant changes to their character while others got massive buffs. Check the link in my signature, its pretty much the best request thread in the entire history of SF4 that blows up every other character request threads (yours included), yet it was ignored. This is not a coincidence, it’s just Capcom being Capcom and not listening to any of our suggestions. It would help if they actually knew what the fuck they were doing but nope, I for one will enjoy the next 4 versions of SF4.

I am really sorry to hear that you’ve gone through all that work and even so Capcom didn’t hear you. But I have to say, **“3F non invincible DP will surely improve our wake up, 5 buffs on his neutral/diagonal light jabs/kicks will make him literally the best air to air character, and a full screen thunderbolt will surely fuck up everyone” **even though they might not be the buffs you’ve asked for, they are still better buffs than the ones we’ve got (which are almost exclusively corrections of mistakes that shouldn’t be there to start with), and Dudley is unarguebly a more competitive character than Guy even without any buffs.
So, no dude, we’re not complaining about the same things here.

See this is the problem here, opinions and the lack knowledge of other characters. So unless you play those 2 characters competitively at a tourney level and I have seen you what you’re capable of, then your words aren’t very convincing. If I were to ask the Dudley forum if Guy is better than Dudley, they will most likely say yes. Same thing will apply to Guy forum, they’ll most likely say Dudley is better than Guy. See where I’m getting at? Every other character boards are having this same persecution complex whether their characters were proven to be better than average or not.

Bottom line is, wait you know what I’ll just quote some of the stuff I wrote on Gouken forum.

  1. Capcom gives some random irrelevant buffs to every characters so that it looks like they did something.
  2. Everyone is upset that every other characters but their own got beast buffs (lack of knowledge in other characters).
  3. Kneejerk reaction everywhere, the lottery balancing Capcom does every year totally decides which characters get their relevant changes purely by luck.

I didn’t come here to cause a shitstorm, I’m just lurking every other boards right now to see if it’s the same elsewhere (yes even c.viper, akuma and other players are crying for some reason). Just wanted to let you know that you guys aren’t alone on this one.

FREAKING EX TATSU FADC CAPCOM

There isn’t a single fucking person that will say Guy is better than Dudley because people are completely delusional idiots. Unless they go around lurking on other boards for the sake of talking down on others opinions. It’s more like OMG my guy got incredible stfu, hey everyone don’t complain plz!!

http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/factsopinions.html

How did stuff end up as stfu?

Am I that sleepy?

Anyway piss off, this isn’t a Dudley thread.

Quality reading comprehension.
I seriously hope this guy isn’t a regular poster here.

He isn’t, but Guy has a bigger damage output at the expense of not spending so much meter or spending much meter at all compared to Dudley, but in terms of pressure, lockdown etc. It’d go to Dudley, Guy vs Dud will probably be the same which is Dud’s Favor, but have to wait and see, if Guy can at least be able to jump in on Dudley or better yet most characters he’ll have a much easier time against all of the cast.

Yes, I’m disappointed about the changes. No surprises, so Capcom not caring about us.

I’ll give other characters a test.
Ibuki I mean.

what up Yang, I wonder if I picked up Cody again if people would call me a tier whore…

though I’ll probably just stick to Guy.

You’re right. We are on the same side, I don’t even know why we’re having this discussion.
But I do play Dudley and Guy competitively, I have played Dudley since 3rd strike, and it is my humble opinion that Dudley is a character with more options than Guy (reversal uppercut > FADC, better normals, better damage display when there is meter to spend, etc). Oh, wait…I am not the only one who thinks that, tiers are there for a reason.
And plus, I disagree when you say all characters are the same…Mago picked Sagat in vanilla and Fei in super and AE for a reason.
And yeah, Viper players have a lot to cry about. She got heavily nerfed. But then again, I think she doesn’t even belong in this game so…to hell with her.

Pedro I’ve been meaning to ask, do you play KOF at all… the game is basically in the lists of almost all Brazilians that play fighters.