So dude had a history of mental issues and was even hospitalized for it, yet he could legally purchase a gun.
I mean, yeah, thereâs clearly a problem here if people who have been hospitalized for mental illness can go purchase a gun legally.
With everything thatâs happened, the owners of the gaming bar where the shooting took place have made a gofundme page to help raise the funds to cover the funeral costs for those who lost thier lives there. hereâs the link if anyone wantâs to help out.
I donât know how you guys cope over there. Social events ( although larger ones) make me slightly on edge even in Australia which is about 150 times safer than America.
I wouldnât go to anything over there, seems like your odds go from likely impossible to - maybe on a bad dayâŚ
Because it is useless to live in fear. Iâm more likely to get killed in my car going to the event then getting shot at the event so worrying about that it a waste of time.
Whilst this is true, I feel thereâs a tipping point where itâs still worth considering. When the second Malaysian Airlines flight fell out the sky, I doubt the first thing anyone thought was, my chances are so slim !
I mean I have kids, so itâs probably heightened for me. Donât get me wrong I love America, but Iâd scratch it straight off a list for raising a family.
I mean I heard you practice shooter drills with kids at school. Thatâs crazy. Like thereâs possibley side effects mentally from even running things like that.
I try to avoid comment on these things these days, since youâre too deep in and your Government appears not to do whatâs necessary.
Our government doesnât do whatâs necessary because theyâre in gun lobbyists pockets.
This is a major part of it.
I saw this image floating around today, itâs very fitting to the weekends incident.
When TWA Flight 800 blew up in mid air i got on an airplane the very next day. No I donât agree with your premise on just about level.
You donât have to agree, but players like Luffy saying he fears coming to American events even before the shooting and Justin Wong saying heâs only attending events with security, is evidence that itâs inside some peopleâs sub conscious and rightly so.
We cope very easily because the odds of dying in a mass shooting are insanely small compared to anything that could kill you. It happens, but so does a lot of shit. Except a lot of other shit happens more often by and large.
If you arenât in a gang, odds are incredibly good you wonât die from a bullet. If you donât commit suicide with a gun, then the odds of a gun being the reason you die is even smaller. After that you take out the people who used a gun in self defense and cops needing to use that.
After all that, you have mass shootings. So if you arenât in a gang and needing to fight over turf, about to commit suicide, attempting to commit a crime where a person is armed or fucking with a cop, the odds of you getting shot are really small.
Letâs take 2016 to put things into context:
606 people died from mass shootings
38,000 + number of gun deaths that year
325,700,000 is the current population of the US (substract a couple of millions to roll back time).
Thatâs mass shootings by the numbers. Out of 300 fucking million people, 606 died by mass shooting. Wanna know how many died from cancer? 595,690.
Thereâs a lot to discuss about gun control. We can do it well informed and silly ass obfuscating that leads to unproductive bullshit and posturing.
606 number from: https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data/2016
38,000 number from: http://time.com/5011599/gun-deaths-rate-america-cdc-data/
This is not a post taking a side. Just pointing out how much scaremongering happens in the media about these events. this sensationalism doesnât help either.
When kids get blown away at a gaming event the media doesnât need to lift a finger. Iâm pretty much on board with banning guns, except at this point itâs too late for you. Youâre going to have to just deal with it as a nation.
Itâs not just about public guns either, most of the kids that have been shot by cops would still be here today if everyone wasnât so twitchy.
If you guys think itâs an acceptable risk to have guns accessible to anyone then itâs on you guys. Every other country that had a mass shooting said ânope thatâs itâ after their first event and the majority of the public said âsure, no problemâ
Its an emotionally loaded topic but, more people died from being pedestrians that died in mass shootings in 2016:
A report released today by the Governors Highway Safety Association shows that the number of pedestrians killed in traffic jumped 11 percent last year, to nearly 6,000. Thatâs the biggest single-year increase in pedestrian fatalities ever, and the highest number in more than two decades.
Is it an acceptable risk to walk next to streets?
Itâs a conscious decision to shoot someone that can be avoided, not quite the same as accidentally getting run over. I manage risk at my work on a daily basis, thereâs a hierarchy of control pyramid and the first step is always elimination.
Can you eliminate the problem. If yes, those deaths are on the people that decide to live with that.
Not that chance does not play a factor because it does. We have a similar situation here with sharks and Iâd imagine the odds of that are even longer than guns. So if a shark kills a person on a beach itâs unfortunate, if a shark then kills another person on that same beachâŚ
Similarly, if people are being killed by guns in social events, thatâs unlucky, if people are dying every 6 months in social eventsâŚ
How many people does the shark have to kill for us to decide that it might be worthwhile getting rid of the shark?
@Highlandfireball there is literally no reason to try and have a discussion with him. He is a gun nutter that just makes strawman arguments and use whataboutism to try and argue against points that are completely irrelevant. I learned that in the SF5 thread. Better to save your key strokes.
This kid had a history of mental problems including hospitalization and he still easily and legally obtained multiple guns. There is clearly a problem when someone with that history has no problems legally purchasing a gun.
^^^ and just to be clear, Iâm talking about the Bread dude lol.
Iâm not even a gun owner. You guys literally talk out of your ass over something that is incredibly statistically small. You canât even start either because when I mentioned that there were mass shootings that wouldâve been prevented by laws already in the books, you avoided that part altogether.
You guys can stay retarded all you want, but making dumb ass statements about random shit is not going to move any discussion. It is literally this easy to show how much the problem gets exaggerated but youâd rather call it straw man.
Private places are already taking steps to prevent shootings. So yeah, people are pseudo closing up the beaches. doesnât mean that you need legislation that probably wonât do shit to stop anything added for the sake of things.
Never said you were a gun owner, said you were a gun nutter. You clearly think you are way more educated than anyone else on these forums about guns and that only people as educated about guns as yourself is allowed to have opinions on the subject at hand.
Yet you have absolutely no clue how educated most other people on this forum are about guns.
Youâre whole argument is basically that this isnât a problem because of how little percentage of the total population is being killed or shot in mass shootings. Someone that uses this kind of logic, as well as strawman and keeps pulling out whataboutism isnât even worth engaging really.
Ban sharks.
The Federal Government is far too chummy with the Great White Lobby for that.
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Sorry.
Too many puns to pass that one up.
Fucking David Katz, for now his name shall be Bitch boy.