Guilty Gear Xrd -REVELATOR- one of life's gilty pleasures

[otter]

Poor Chrono Phantasm…

people usually play BB for about a month. That leaves two years until GG comes out.

[Zazzarius]

Whoa, I’m checking the IMDB entry for Overture, this cast list seems epic. Liam O’brien as Ky? Holy crap that is too awesome.

He’s pretty good as Ky.

So yeah, I hope Xrd gets an english track if they can get a good cast together.

[Mr.Unbrockable]

Whoa, I’m checking the IMDB entry for Overture, this cast list seems epic. Liam O’brien as Ky? Holy crap that is too awesome.

He’s pretty good as Ky.

So yeah, I hope Xrd gets an english track if they can get a good cast together.

I say Christina Vee as May, she’s a cutie. And just for the hell of it Kyle Hebert as Venom. And Steve Blum the god of voice acting as everybody else.

[Zazzarius]

Sol’s character model looks bloated. Really. And puffy.
So i took the liberty of messing around with it a bit.

your modified version of Sol looks great.

on the upside, its still in development and they’re using 3D models now so i think they could fix it up a bit.

[d3v]

I wonder if making Sol buffer is an attempt to make him look more distinctive and move away from the anime “noodle people” look. Not that I think he needs it.

I was wondering about that too, I remember when MvC3 was coming out they said having characters who morphed and changed alot in their moves put a strain on the game or something thanks to the 3d models. Although it also might’ve been because Marvel 3 had to worry about loading 6 characters at once, along with the backgrounds and stuff… maybe it won’t be as much of a problem for Xrd. I dunno, I don’t know much about computer programming lol.

It’s basically because of the RAM. Morphing takes up a lot of RAM, regardless. So the situation was compounded on in MvC3’s case, thanks to the expectation to have 6 characters in memory that were to be accessible at any time. It really didn’t leave much room for anything else.

As much as I personally don’t care for SF4, I can certainly respect the work that was done with the likes of Dhalsim’s model in that series. It’s the main thing that gives me hope that ASW will use their own tech to make for some impressive displays in their own right. The sooner they’re ready to show off the likes of Eddie, Dizzy, Testament and Zappa, the better, I say.

As I am wont to point out, SF4 actually does alot of small morphs/transforms for each character, the simplest being enlarging limbs for certain normals to match the proportions of the old sprites.

[Hecatom]

Ok, before anything I want to say that the game looks and sounds amazing. I really like the fake 2D look that totally looks like real 2D animation. Insane technical prowess there. I only have one little problem with it all, so far, which is the same as most people: Sol’s character model looks bloated. Really. And puffy.
So i took the liberty of messing around with it a bit.

http://i.imgur.com/afLt4Ql.png

http://i.imgur.com/pOUsTGg.gif

i think it looks a bit more sleek like old Sol. Less new-age “SF4” Big Brawny shoulders. Messed with his puffy hair (both at the top and pony tail), super wide shoulders + super thick arms and legs and baggy pants. I was careful not to change anything on his clothing (except for those huge things on his chest that were popping out on some looney tunes shit), since they’re changing his design a bit from the older one.

Send it to ASW

[CyberAkuma]

I wonder if making Sol buffer is an attempt to make him look more distinctive and move away from the anime “noodle people” look. Not that I think he needs it.

I was wondering about that too, I remember when MvC3 was coming out they said having characters who morphed and changed alot in their moves put a strain on the game or something thanks to the 3d models. Although it also might’ve been because Marvel 3 had to worry about loading 6 characters at once, along with the backgrounds and stuff… maybe it won’t be as much of a problem for Xrd. I dunno, I don’t know much about computer programming lol.

It’s basically because of the RAM. Morphing takes up a lot of RAM, regardless. So the situation was compounded on in MvC3’s case, thanks to the expectation to have 6 characters in memory that were to be accessible at any time. It really didn’t leave much room for anything else.

As much as I personally don’t care for SF4, I can certainly respect the work that was done with the likes of Dhalsim’s model in that series. It’s the main thing that gives me hope that ASW will use their own tech to make for some impressive displays in their own right. The sooner they’re ready to show off the likes of Eddie, Dizzy, Testament and Zappa, the better, I say.

As I am wont to point out, SF4 actually does alot of small morphs/transforms for each character, the simplest being enlarging limbs for certain normals to match the proportions of the old sprites.

Well, as I said, I didn’t really care for SF4 (for reasons I won’t bother to go into), but I can certainly respect the work that they did. Dhalsim’s model is just the one that really sticks out the most to me, from what I’ve seen of that game.

[Hecatom]

I wonder if making Sol buffer is an attempt to make him look more distinctive and move away from the anime “noodle people” look. Not that I think he needs it.

I was wondering about that too, I remember when MvC3 was coming out they said having characters who morphed and changed alot in their moves put a strain on the game or something thanks to the 3d models. Although it also might’ve been because Marvel 3 had to worry about loading 6 characters at once, along with the backgrounds and stuff… maybe it won’t be as much of a problem for Xrd. I dunno, I don’t know much about computer programming lol.

It’s basically because of the RAM. Morphing takes up a lot of RAM, regardless. So the situation was compounded on in MvC3’s case, thanks to the expectation to have 6 characters in memory that were to be accessible at any time. It really didn’t leave much room for anything else.

As much as I personally don’t care for SF4, I can certainly respect the work that was done with the likes of Dhalsim’s model in that series. It’s the main thing that gives me hope that ASW will use their own tech to make for some impressive displays in their own right. The sooner they’re ready to show off the likes of Eddie, Dizzy, Testament and Zappa, the better, I say.

As I am wont to point out, SF4 actually does alot of small morphs/transforms for each character, the simplest being enlarging limbs for certain normals to match the proportions of the old sprites.

Wich is funny because many of the normals lack the effectiveness of their 2d counterparts, specially after every nerf with each revision

[4r5]

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Ok, before anything I want to say that the game looks and sounds amazing. I really like the fake 2D look that totally looks like real 2D animation. Insane technical prowess there. I only have one little problem with it all, so far, which is the same as most people: Sol’s character model looks bloated. Really. And puffy.
So i took the liberty of messing around with it a bit.

http://i.imgur.com/afLt4Ql.png

http://i.imgur.com/pOUsTGg.gif

i think it looks a bit more sleek like old Sol. Less new-age “SF4” Big Brawny shoulders. Messed with his puffy hair (both at the top and pony tail), super wide shoulders + super thick arms and legs and baggy pants. I was careful not to change anything on his clothing (except for those huge things on his chest that were popping out on some looney tunes shit), since they’re changing his design a bit from the older one.

Send it to ASW

I’m not sure Sol’s proportions can be fixed. They’re using the Unreal Engine.

[d3v]

I wonder if making Sol buffer is an attempt to make him look more distinctive and move away from the anime “noodle people” look. Not that I think he needs it.

I was wondering about that too, I remember when MvC3 was coming out they said having characters who morphed and changed alot in their moves put a strain on the game or something thanks to the 3d models. Although it also might’ve been because Marvel 3 had to worry about loading 6 characters at once, along with the backgrounds and stuff… maybe it won’t be as much of a problem for Xrd. I dunno, I don’t know much about computer programming lol.

It’s basically because of the RAM. Morphing takes up a lot of RAM, regardless. So the situation was compounded on in MvC3’s case, thanks to the expectation to have 6 characters in memory that were to be accessible at any time. It really didn’t leave much room for anything else.

As much as I personally don’t care for SF4, I can certainly respect the work that was done with the likes of Dhalsim’s model in that series. It’s the main thing that gives me hope that ASW will use their own tech to make for some impressive displays in their own right. The sooner they’re ready to show off the likes of Eddie, Dizzy, Testament and Zappa, the better, I say.

As I am wont to point out, SF4 actually does alot of small morphs/transforms for each character, the simplest being enlarging limbs for certain normals to match the proportions of the old sprites.

Wich is funny because many of the normals lack the effectiveness of their 2d counterparts, specially after every nerf with each revision

Not the point.

I know you like to argue, but geez.

[JohnGrimm]

Okay I seriously sent that Sol image to ASW’s twitter on two accounts and if I can figure out how to send an email or something to them I’m doing that too. The right Sol looks so much better it’s ridiculous. The Ky model is fine, the Millia model looks great, it’s just Sol that got the XII Ralf treatment and it’s silly. It could be early enough into development that if we expressed our want for a slimmer Sol model they might be able to do something about it.

[Spirit_Juice]

If the game came out today, everyone would be saying “Man this game is awesome! I’ve always respected the GG series for so long!” Then two weeks later they’ll quit the game and go back to playing SFIV and UMVC3 because HERP DERP CAPCOM MAEKS TEH BES GAYMZ.

Actually, it probably won’t be too different in two or three years when Xrd comes out, except the only difference they’ll be playing whatever shit Capcom scooped out of their assholes and served to the incredibly gullible US FGC.

IN ANY CASE, I wasn’t that thrilled with how the game looked when I first saw it, but it has grown on me a bit. I think it looks great when it’s “2D” and they’re fighting on a 2D plane. When the camera zooms and makes it apparent they’re 3D models, I think it looks a bit off. Not terrible, but just something I’m not used to.

On the subject of dumbing things down, Daisuke Ishiwatari has said before that he does not plan on dumbing the series down. They might not, considering he’s the director, but money talks a lot louder than words. That said, I think people, GG OGs like myself, need to go into this expecting it may be dumbed down, even just a little bit, and accept it beforehand; we don’t need a bunch of unreasonably bitter old men like with what happened with BlazBlue (i.e. expecting nothing but HD Guilty Gear).

Hopefully we’ll hear more about the game soonish!

EDIT: I hope the game is not on the Unreal Engine 3… because that engine is dated as hell and has trouble with texture popping. It’d be pretty awful to see characters loading in and looking like mud people or randomly looking like mud people from time to time.

[Bhjaddhos]

I don’t really see the problem with Sol’s new look, I just think they’re going for a slightly more cartoony style with exaggerated proportions.

[gamingsage]

The western feel of that level is awesome. With the saloon guy on the right and other junk, this game gives a whole new feel.

[Lord_Raptor]

The western feel of that level is awesome. With the saloon guy on the right and other junk, this game gives a whole new feel.

You mean the feel it always had

I just want original grown up Jelly Fish Lolis back, no more Madoka lolis.

[blufang]

Guilty gear isn’t a game that needs to be dumbed down. It is easy to jump into, and you always feel like you are doing something somewhat impressive even as a beginner.

[STenSatsu]

The only thing I can really see them ‘dumbing down’ is FRC timing windows. I could see them making those a bit wider because that is the main execution barrier to get ‘competitive’ for a new player imo. I don’t really feel like most BNBs/strings are all that hard otherwise. I’m interested to see if a deliberate effort is made to preserve things like 1 frame jumps, all types of JI, and ID type stuff though.

[SixMachine]

EDIT: I hope the game is not on the Unreal Engine 3… because that engine is dated as hell and has trouble with texture popping. It’d be pretty awful to see characters loading in and looking like mud people or randomly looking like mud people from time to time.

I was wondering because the only other fighting games are from NRS but I don’t remember any texture popping with their games except during their cinematics. I think fighting games could handle the pop in problem better than other genres. In FPS and TPS games, since you are approaching objects they try to redraw the texture depending on distance (if you a far away it’ll use a shitty texture because you can’t tell the difference), but since FGs really don’t move the camera around as much, it shouldn’t be too much of a problem. There’s only 2 characters so maybe it’ll also help with the loading issue, even with helpers like Little Eddie and Zappa’s friends.

[Jocelot]

I could also seem them bringing in the super jump system from BB, where you can still double jump after a super jump, eliminating the whole ‘jump install’ thing.

[d3v]

Buff Sol reminds me of FF Terry to MOTW Terry.