Okay so I went on a complete mission to make sure that I was playing lag free by shelling out for the EVO-approved Asus monitor to get lagless play.
Now I’m thinking about recording my matches in SD.
I’m worried that if I start running my HDMI cable from the PS3—>hauppauge, HDPVR, HAVA whatever–> Asus monitor, lag will be introduced to gaming experience.
Can anyone comfirm if ANY lag is introduced by recording matches this way?
If so I’ll forgo the whole recording thing and just record via cam. Lagless play is first priority.
Great post, but I don’t think the HDMI to component conversion will work because the HDMI signal from a PS3 is encrypted (I think… someone correct me?). I’d also worry about any input lag the HDMI splitter might introduce.
The hdmi to component conversion i’m getting is “hdcp” compatible… what i’m hoping it would do is decrypt the encrypted signal when it comes out as analog (fingers crossed).
I hope to have this setup sometime soon (maybe 2 weeks), I will update accordingly.
Edit: this is the diagram, which will hopefully will work I basically will hope to switch between the two systems and still be able to record hd
HDCP is supposed to also be on component but since its analog they can’t block out the picture entirely but force it to downscale. That what I read back several months ago when I was looking into my intensity pro card.
i just read up on that hdfury thing, and its mostly useless for us. All it does is, convert a copy-protected DVI-D stream, and converts it to RGB VGA.
This is ONLY cool if you have an old non-HDCP compliant or VGA projector (since theyre expensive to replace), but if you have any widescreen monitor like me, chances are that its HDCP compliant already.
No, that would in theory allow you to run the hdmi from the PS3 to your pegasus/intensity pro capture card and not worry about HDCP compliance. no idea if it lags though.
Really the only reason for an HD fury is if you are trying to play HD on a non-HDCP compliant monitor
the best way to get ps3 HD signal is to just go component. I actually do the same thing with 360 and ill give yall an insight to my streaming and recording setups later tonight
I have hava HD platinum and there is no lag at all, but image quality decreases (probably my box has some problems, since it’s refurbished). Anyway, to avoid this, I have a diferent schema that works
PS3 (component output ) -->
splitter (x3 for RGB) --> 3 cables go to LCD
–> 3 cables go to Hava HD Platinum
The only lag (actually, it’s delay) you get it’s in the Hava Player (about 1.5 or 2 seconds) but that’s fine, since you play from the TV and not from PC. Can see an example here: [media=youtube]XLe_DGsgzX0[/media]
to record via hdmi if possible. I know that one game downscales to 720p when played via component, so with HD Fury it may be possible to record in 1080i.
recording anything in interlaced mode is asking for trouble, and downright stupid cuz you’re going to deinterlace it anyway. you’re adding an extra step in your workflow when you can simply get 720p with VERY negligible difference.
i personally think the only two video modes that you most people should be capturing at is either NTSC 480i, or 720p (1280x720@60). Not a single arcade fighting game displays video any higher than 720p. 1080i-1080p, while its nice on a 50 inch plasma, its not worth capturing at IMO.
If all monitors had component input, people wouldn’t even be considering using HDMI. The problem is none of the lag free, affordable displays come with them, only unproven and untested TVs. For PS3, that only leaves HDMI for a HD recording source.
both the intensity pro and pegasus limits are 1080i capturing. If you want to get the most out of your recording then that is the way to go and later deinterlace and scale to 1080p later.
Also the intensity pro doesn’t automatically detect the change in resolution through component or hdmi. So if you do have your PS3 gui in 1080i or 1080p, as soon as you attempt to capture a game like NGS which goes down to 720p via component no matter what you do, you have to then switch the settings in your recording software or else you won’t see anything. To by pass that annoying setting switching every time you exit out of the game or go into the game recording by hdmi with hdfury may be required. and something that I would like to try someday if I can personally justify spending 100-300 dollars on the hdfury device.
if your fine with 720p the component is fine, but to those looking to record in 1080i or 1080p then this is something that you may have to do.
Seems like the best thread to ask for this kind of help.
Which is a good component to HDMI converter box? I’m asking around looking for information so a local league can requisite one to help us record matches while playing on ASUS monitors, since the matches will be recorded from component.
I’d love to see as many options as possible so don’t be shy in posting many of them.
Thanks a bunch.
PS3 component cables -> fed into Intensity Pro card inside PC -> HDMI outputted to EVO Monitor.
Would this introduce input lag on the Evo monitor, due to the main input not really being in the monitor, but rather being fed through the computer first?
What I want to do is enjoy the games on the monitor, but stream or record via pc … but i don’t want to introduce lag by outputting it like that, which in essence destroys the reason to have the lagless monitor in the first place.