Any help on this? I guess I can create a new thread if this is being overlooked but I figure I would start here.
i am no expert but i myself have a Hava set up. i believe the Hava was more meant for a TV type set up, hence the component/composite input/outputs. at a quick glance the ASUS you linked appears to be more of a “monitor” for a PC. i’m sure there are adapters you can purchase to get this to work, but yes i believe the Hava was gear more towards the component/composite connections for a TV type set up…
not entirely true.
With component capture, SSF2THDR displays fine in both 720p and 1080i (highest the intensity pro can capture).
However Ninja Gaiden Sigma if you start the game at 1080i and attempt to preview/capture you’ll get a black screen. Until you change the settings within intensity pro in the software you’re using for capture to 720p and then it shows up just fine.
IIRC SF4 acts the same way. A HDFury device maybe required to capture 1080i since the PS3 downscales it to 720. But thats speculation since I don’t have a HDFury to try it out on (unless someone wants to send me one to try out ) Of course that can also be the game/system not wanting to output the game at 1080i and forcibly outputting at 720p regardless of it being set to 1080i.
For lag, from what I can tell it doesn’t lag on the output but it’ll only display the output if you have the capture program open otherwise the screen will be black. But virtualdub does lag on the preview more than the software that comes with the card so just use that instead.
the intensity pro does have hdmi input and hdmi output. But as I said above you’ll need to have the capture program running before you can even see the video outputted through the card onto the monitor. and with hdmi you will need HDFury.
the Pegasus/HDRECs also can record via hdmi, dvi (through hdmi adapter), vga, component, s-video and composite. But also costs over 800 dollars. Intensity pro is around 300. your choice, or just play/capture in SD.
What you could do with the intensity pro is output out of the console via component, and record/preview on the computer. But on top of that the card can output the component signal through an HDMI cable so you don’t need to worry about converting the component to hdmi or anything as the card does it by itself. The cards software in windows control panel also allows you to upscale or downscale both the input and the output to whatever you like.
double edit:
video of gameplay of SF4 (demo fight between akuma and sakura, originally had sound but the original was 30 secs and 600mb so I cut it in half and lost the sound somewhere inbetween lol).
http://www.streetfighterex.info/capture2.avi
though to contrast it to a game with actually good graphics I’m going to record some ninja gaiden sigma
short clip with the blackmagic codec http://www.streetfighterex.info/nge.avi
entire clip in H264 MP4 http://www.streetfighterex.info/ngc.avi
please don’t rape my site bandwidth lol
i have a ps3 with component output on a 36 inch CRT TV. I was wondering what is the easiest and cheapest way to record my matches on the PC.
HD or SD?
if its SD the only card that I’m aware of that does this is the PDI Deluxe (which I have). good luck finding it though :-\
HD you have a few options, like the two capture cards I talked about in my above post or the haupage HD PVR as well.
Hey Shinji, thanks for the help. I am looking to be able to play in HD, but record in whatever I can get. HD recording is not really important to me.
I’m not clear on what you meant here. The intensity pro doesn’t appear to have a component hookup - would I need some sort of converter? Or would I get some sort of splitter so that my HDMI cable hooks up simultaneously to my monitor and the intensity pro card? I imagined that I could use HDMI for my monitor, and then use the PS3’s component cables to output to whatever recording device I am using. Perhaps I am conceptualizing the setup situation here badly. (Is this how it works?)
it comes with a breakout cable which includes both component in and component out jacks, as well as a few other ones. you can also assign specific component jacks to composite or s-video.
Gotcha. Didn’t catch that the first time. I understand what you are saying now. I am going to go ahead and get this then. Thanks for your help. One further question - can you confirm that you can play in HD and record at the same time (not necessarily recording in HD, of course)?
I’m curious. both these devices use hdmi and component. Currently i’m using a VGA for my xbox 360 so i can avoid HDTV lag. If i use this device to record won’t i have to deal with the lag again?
Is the best option for this to get a display (like the lcds that people are suggesting from newegg) that doesnt’ lag at all so i can use HDMI cables?
really depends on how powerful your computer is. It may still end up lagging if your computer can’t process the preview/overlay quickly enough (720p-1080i, is still a lot of information to process).
hrm ok.
Any suggetsions for using a dazzle dvd recorder? im using a samsung 32" connected up with a hdmi cable. I dont think the tv has av out… shall i use my old copmposite cable or splash out on a black magic intensity pro: http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/
examples: [media=youtube]JB7oQq3Na6I[/media]
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i was really impressed with the vids. What do you think?
btw i have a 360 and my pc can support the intensity pro card.
To anyone that has a Dazzle DVD recorder: can you play in real time while you are recording, or is there a 1 second lag that occurs on the screen you’re recording on?
There might be a tiny lag in sound, but game play, i didnt see it. I hooked it all up on friday night. Here is a test vid: [media=youtube]GMoZFv40GMA[/media]
I’ve been having trouble getting good results recording videos from the xbox 360 with the Hava Titanium. I record all my videos directly to an external hard drive and on the highest quality setting.
All of the resolutions I’ve tried give me pretty awful interlacing. 720p being the worst, 1080i better, 1080p will not show video and 480p might be the best but 480p oddly will not record in widescreen.
Regardless, I tried to deinterlace the videos with Sony Vegas but can’t figure out some good settings. Sometimes I get decent results but lose my widescreen aspect ratio. Also, the colors seem dull. Could someone give me some tips to improve my results? Thanks in advance.
edit: also, while 1080i is currently my best widescreen recording resolution, I have a feeling it is noticeably increasing my input lag/delay.
Okay, so I searched Black Magic card and it didn’t give any good replies so I have a question, since you can’t record HDMI input from PS3 on the BM card, if you connected the PS3 through the component adapter and had it go into the BM card, can you then run HDMI output to a splitter/HDTV and not get any lag? I’m trying to figure out a setup to be able to record PS3 games, but then put it back through my monitor via HDMI.
Also, if I did this would there be lag.
Basically it would be
PS3>------COMPONENT CABLE------>PC W/BLACK MAGIC>------HDMI CABLE (output)----->HDTV/ACER Monitor/SPLITTER
That would be very interesting to test, for both lag and any loss in visual clarity.
This way is more expensive, but won’t lag or lose quality:
PS3 to HDMI Splitter to:
---------->Monitor (can use two for back to back setup)
---------->HDFury (gets rid of HTCP)------------>Black Magic
---------->Projector… whatever else.
can anyone shed some light on if this works without lag?
Hey all (this is a post i made on an Australian forum and i thought it might help others out here too who’s got the same type of questions regarding recording),
If you guys want to record 720p/1080i HD footage from your PS3/360 then this great little unit called the Hauppauge HD PVR.
it’s pretty simple to record, just plug the respective cables into their respective slots, load up the software on the notebook/desktop and away you go.
The tutorial can be found below
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So far, i’ve created a few quick vids from a few casuals on XBL yesterday.
Yes, i’m not the greatest, yes i’ve got poor exeuction, but we can’t all be like daigo and humanbomb in a matter of months
I only got this device the other day and i’m still testing out a few settings. I just thought that for those that want to capture their gameplay this device would be handy, even at the OHN finals or something or even fightclubs
Here’s the intial test I did the other day (once again, sorry for the poor execution, I guess thats what the training room is for :D)
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Settings are as follows:
XBOX 360 set to 720p connected via Component
Total Media Extreme set to record PAL60 1280x720 @ 60 FPS
I got the original m2ts file (206mb for 2:35 minutes), imported it to Windows Movie Maker and published it with “Windows Media HD 720p (PAL) (5.9Mbps)” settings under More settings.
Final size is almost half the original size at 111mb.
The setup i have right now is exactly as the tutorial ie. 360 to component input of the pvr, since its a passthrough, i output from the hd pvr to my tv.
What i would like to do in the future is this:
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[] Have a PS3 and X360 go into a HDMI switcher (to switch between PS3 and X360 - 2 input, 1 output),
[] The HDMI splitter go into a HDMI distributer (1 input, 3 output - to have the signal coming from the distributer to go into multiple sources, 1 being the tv, and one being a hdmi to component converter)
[*] From the HDMI to component, put it to the HD PVR.
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This setup will should allow me to record both PS3 and X360 gameplay (i’m not really sure how HDCP will affect this on the PS3 side), in theory it should allow me to record any HDMI input.
The unit costs about 300’ish dollars shipped from the US, I guess only can fathom if its expensive or not, for me, I guess it’ll be used as a “training” tool, I can clearly see what I’ve done wrong and how to somewhat improve, plus i’m sure there’ll be other stuff I’d record other then SFIV gameplay.
Any questions feel free to ask…
Cheers
I have tried this set up when I recorded some HDR. SF4 and NGS clips. The monitor at the end certainly lags less then the overlay screen from the recording software (also not as skippy, less dropped frames) but because its being displayed on an LCD monitor which has at least 2 frames of lag I can’t say exactly if that set up lags on the end monitor.
however in order to get the display on the monitor you need to have your recording software up and running, if its off then you’ll get a black screen on the monitor until you start up the software,