Since Ultimate came out I always used FW in casuals for S&Gs but today I want to try out FW(Shopping Cart) | GR (Hellfire Spire) | TM (H.Arrows) and I am amazed at how well all three work together. Im going to stick with the team in my sig, however Iam already better with this new team. I just need to figure out how to get to lvl 4 off of one combo. I have Frank on point, Blaze in the middle and task as anchor. Any help, advice or tips is gladly appreciated it.
Here’s my level 1 bnb to level 4 for my Frank (shopping cart) / Ghost Rider (hellfire) / Sentinel (drones) team. It work anywhere on the screen builds 1 meter and uses 2 so it can be used as opening combo:
j.S or j.H cr.L cr.M cr.H S > j.M j.M j.H j.S > land A1 OTG (hellfire) dash j.S > land cr.M cr.H S > j.M j.M j.H j.S > Land THC snapshot
The combo’s easy to me since it’s an alternate version of my old Frank bnb.
I run this team occassionally, but the order is firebrand(a)/frank(a)/mag(a). Mags beam helps frank get in and with his roll mix up and fb when you zone with him. Fbs bnbs are a lot of hits, for instance my bnb with him does roughly 20 hits depending on if I use franks cart(which is very helpful), where I am on screen and how I get in. From there you can tac to frank (I know its not completely safe but fb doesn’t have a problem getting in) do MMHdH A1 qcf+s s jMMHdH(or jMS depending on hit stun) qcf+s qcb+MH at peek of super at end dhc qcb+MH for super gargoyle and hardtag back for another qcf+s (qcb+MH if meter provides) for a level 5 frank. The relaunch with the assist can be tricky
Ammy and Frank have to be the best duo I’ve seen. ALL of Ammy’s assists benefit Frank. Okami Shuffle can be photographed during a THC. Ammy likes the shopping cart.
That’s not even starting on the trollface combo. (Photo>Survival Techniques xx Vale of Mist, then hard tag into Frank for another photo and Survival Techniques, and so forth. :wtf:)
So I jocked Noel Brown’s shit on accident. The Wolverine/Frank shit.
My Frank team is Firebrand/Frank West/Amaterasu
I rely on THC’s and TAC’s to level up Frank. Its mad gimmicky, but if you get hit, Frank is getting leveled up. And by now Im sure you seen Noel do that Frank shit. It would go like this…
Firebrand combo (which does around 20 hits) TAC Frank, sj. H, S, land, dash, Snapshot xxx Survival Techniques DHC Luminious body, tag Frank in, Snapshot xxx Survival technique DHC Dark Fire (don’t hit) DHC Veil of Mist, tag Frank in, Snapshot.
Very gimmicky and would never do this in a match but still its a lvl 5 Frank so hey shrug
Now I think that Felicia/Frank would be alot more efficient for my gimmick.
Felicia combo (which does maybe 14 hits) TAC Frank, sj. m xxx L TOS, sj. m, S, land, dash, Snapshot xxx Survival Techniques DHC Kitty Helper, tag Frank in, Snapshot xxx Survival technique DHC Kitty Helper, tag Frank in, Snapshot xxx Survival Techniques.
Alot more damage and in theory ends with lvl 5 frank.
With Firebrand/Frank/Ammy, THC’s are devastating. They do good damage and if Frank is on point he gets a free snapshot.
Imma do more experimenting with this team and post here what I get.
Im also gonna start working with Ironfist/Frank/Spencer (looks like a good team in theory).
i want to pick up Frank West after seeing him at level 4 and doing chip damage with normals. i thought, holy crap that’s awesome! i’ve actually wanted to pick him up since day1 (coz my girlfriend is a photographer who loves playing l4d and the zombie genre in general) but the leveling up system kinda scared me off. but anyway…
i currently main Nova, so i can get Frank to level 4 through an easy DHC. But now i’m searching for someone in the 3rd slot. I have so many options (for an anchor and/or for a team) that i’m a bit overwhelmed right now, so any help would be super fantastic. (i put my situation in quotes to make it less of an eyesore)
I have not seen what Noel Brown did but I know that Frank gets a raw tag snapshot xx survival from any super with no recovery frames and any that leaves the opponent in a crumple state.
Also with your Iron Fist/Frank West/Spencer team you can probably do some double crumple combos with Iron Fist plus Spencer then raw tag Frank to finish up the combo. The only thing is that I don’t know if this team gives you assists to help Frank get in.
Well all the characters you have listen can help Frank one way or another and Frank helps them as well. All of them can help extend Frank’s combos and some can help in get in as well. Based on your proficiency, I’d say you could try something like Dormammu (dark hole) / Frank (shopping cart) / Wesker (samurai edge). Wesker is a great anchor and can extend both Dorm and Frank’s damage. Dormammu’s assist somewhat helps both his partners get in/mix up and he makes it easier for Frank to level up. Of course Frank’s shopping cart also helps both his partner to get in or zone. You could also swap Wesker with Skrull and get a similar team with even more THC damage but slightly less mobility and Skrull not benefiting as much from Frank’s assist.
You can definitely work some other characters in with Frank but this little input was only based on your list. Good luck.
I am using:
Ryu (Tatsu)
Frank (Shopping Cart)
Rocket Raccoon (Claymore)
1 Crossover Combination in the corner = Lvl 4. Is that not good enough?
I have Frank in the Middle with Dante on anchor. I’ve been alternating point characters. Some one who can build a meter from a bnb and DHC to a whiffing survival tech for instant lvl 4. I was using Vergil, thinking about switching to Nova, or RR. If my point character fails his task, I can always fall back on a Lvl 1 Frank BnB > Snapshot > Jam Session > Snapshot (Level 3) > Survival Tech > DHC Devil Trigger > Dante BnB > Million Dollars > DHC Survival Tech whiff snap shot for a level 5. But it takes 4 meters and builds only one. Plus the timing is real strict.
Wow I just looked 2 posts up from mines noting a Noel Brown combo. I should just raw tag after DHC Devil Trigger and take another snapshot.
Im going to try Frank West (tools of Survival) | Dr. Strange (EoA) | Doom (Plasma Beam) this week end. Ive been going over the synergy in my head all day and I want to see how much chip damage level 4/5 ToS assist + EoA actually does.
With Frank/Dante the best way to level him is using a THC, gets you to level 5 for only two meters.
Right now my team is Haggar/Dante/Frank but I’m still trying to find the best order for this team. I sometimes switch to Dante/Haggar/Frank for keep away heavy teams but even Haggar/Frank/Dante works. If I were you I would consider Dante/Frank/* since Dante is really good on point but if you want to stick to */Frank/Dante, either of the characters you mentioned would work. It just depends on your playstyle and preference.
I’m using Haggar(lariat)/Trish(voltage)/Frank(cart) and it’s basically set up to get Frank to level 4 or 5 easily, as long as Haggar can land a hit and has a bar. Trish in second is great for leveling Frank DHC wise as well.
Ocaml thanks for that Haggar & Frank level 4/5 setup, been using it a lot online lol.
I’ve been wanting to try FW|Doom|Strange for a while now, so I tried it out last night (in the lab and Playermatches). There is synergy, however I think Frank benefits more being in the middle then being on point. If Doom or strange is on point just go into their loops and do a TAC with Frank to get him to level 3 ~ 4. I know all of us want to get to level 5 like instantaneously, however untill we figure out that enigma, lvl 3 and 4 is legit.
I like the team and is very good but not high tournament worthy. Doom/Strange, Doom/ Frank & Frank/Strange are great together however I need to figure out a good solid tourney team. Frank is on for sure so is Doom, so I was thinking about;
Dante
Wesker
Ghost Rider
Strange
Magneto
Spenser
Dorm
Doom will be point, Frank in the middle and some one from the list will be anchor. Any tips and suggestions is appreciated. Its going to be a long weekend.
I’m honestly anti THC. It just doesn’t ever come into my thought process, even though I know it’s probably the most efficient way to use two meters and level up frank. I’ll have to practice some THC bnb’s and I’ll have it for sure. But for now I just want a Point char to do the work so I can start out with a leveled up frank.
here’s more of this junk
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I’m liking Spider-Man/Frank/Ammy even though Ammy is a better partner for Frank than Spidey. Finding the perfect anchor for both of them is haaaaaaard
I feel like Dante or Dormammu would help your team the most. All the other characters except maybe for Magneto and Ghost Rider seem like they like they would be good anchors in general but I think Dante and Dormammu’s assists would benefit your other two characters more. They would also benefit from Frank and Doom’s assists. I barely know anything about Strange so I’m not considering him. lol
Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3
Newcomer’s Team Assessment Questionnaire
1. Who characters and teams will you use (in order of selection)? Wolverine(barrage),Frank(cart),Sent(drones)
2. What type of game-play strategy are you pursuing with this team? Basically i use frank and sent to get in. I treat cart assist as the old akuma Bestfriends mixup. Now i do a basic BNB to TAC into Frank. Photo => survival techniques DHC Fatal Claw. Run the mixup al over again. OR instead of Fatal Claw i can do Berserker charge and raw tag frank in for the shot and surival tachniques again for level up.
3. What advantages does your point (first selected) character have? Wolverine is great on point especially being backed by two assists and His BNB is so simple its almost impossible to drop
What disadvantages does your point character have? Very few may abuse Xfactor if i need to takeout wesker
*What maneuverability options does your point character have? Berserker slah is still great and of course sj. divekick/:s: to get in. *
How will your assists aid your point character? use Cart like Akuma and Drones to fill up screen
4. What advantages does your secondary character have?Frank Is Great and has really good pressure with assists. My keepaway sucks though i need to level that up.
What disadvantages does your secondary character have?Hard time getting in by himself unless the opposing character is in the corner.
What maneuverability options does your secondary character have?Rool at Lvl 2
*How will your assists aid your secondary character?Barrage makes Franks :d::h: safe . Drones fills up the entire screen *
5. What advantages does your last character have?Sentinel Hits Hard
What disadvantages does your secondary character have?Slow
*What maneuverability options does your last character have?Flight *
How will your assists aid your last character?at Normal Jump Height i can call Cart to get the character on the ground and eat up assists
6. What kind of Delayed Hyper Combo opportunities do you think your team will have?Survival, fatal claw, sentinel drones or sphere
7. What type of impact will your Team Hyper Combo have on your opponent (Explain)?lol… Drones hot great damage and shopping cart OTGs, barrage Usually kills on last hit
*8. What are some of the weaknesses of your team? IF wolverine is gone it is really hard to get in *
9. After filling out this questionnaire, are you still comfortable with your team? ehhh, been looking for someone that works great with Frank and Wolverine as of right now it feels like I am Running a Wolverine Team with Two assists.
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some creative setups and a pretty cool level 4-5 combo that is shown in the second game. that’s gonna be my corner bnb I think
The team I currently use for Frank West is Frank/Doom/Wesker. I’m still working on this team, so any tips and tricks would be very helpful, since I want to make this team my new main team. I already have some good combos down, using Frank’s air sledgehammer to continue my combos. And Doom’s Plasma Beam to hit my opponent after I get a Snapshot off, so I can easily go into Survival Techniques, though I am starting to get the timing down on properly cancelling the Snapshot into the hyper. Still, at this point, tips from better players would be very helpful.
Read through every post in this thread. Thanks for everything. Here’s my contribution:
Viper and FW(2nd or 3rd) - I really like viper and frank, so i’m trying to get them to work together.
PROS - shopping cart is nice for viper. cart->siesmo chip is fun 
CONS - team can be zoned out depending on 3rd character… but character selection is limited because of Frank’s need to level up. I also prefer to have another character with 1 mil health. Any suggestions?
LAB RESULTS 1 (Viper/Frank/?) - After Viper’s QCB super, you can DHC whiff Frank’s super (if you put him second) and Frank will recover fast enough to hit either a st.H, cr.H, st.M, or S (launcher). This needs to be paired up with a specialized assist to grant a photo op, so Viper Combo -> Whiff Frank’s Super -> st.H + assist. Unfortunately, with a full Viper combo, there is hardly any hitstun left, so a relaunch combo is impossible. i REALLY wanted dorm here, but his dark hole whiffs in the corner and the other assist sends them too high. Also, Viper’s full combo has less than 30 hits, so the combo doesn’t level up Frank to 4. NOTE: must try burn kick assist…
LAB RESULTS 2 (Viper/Trish/Frank) - Round Trip makes for easy Frank leveling and it also sets up an unblockable focus attack with Viper. My Viper BnB with 1 TK-hit-feint and 2 box loops, DHC into Round Trip, Tag Frank-> photo does 900K damage. Which, as good as it sounds, is a bad thing. This kills off most characters before the photo. Especially in a match where a character has probably taken some good seismo chip before you land a hit… NOTE: Perhaps Frank is best leveled with a keepaway character (Chris)? Big damaging combos actually hurt the team because it sucks to have a lvl.1 Frank anchor when Dark Wesker killed Viper and Trish. It also sucks to have Trish anchor 
LAB RESULTS 3 (V/Dorm/F, V/F/Dorm) - I think dorm is the perfect addition to this team, but i can’t get any photo ops in after a combo unless i blow x-factor. If Dorm is second, high damage is a problem again. Viper BnB into Stalking Flare is possible, but i can’t get a photo in time after a hard tag I also tried Dorm last, but his assists whiff in the corner. See Lab Results 1.
CONCLUSION - Perhaps the best way to level up Frank is to photo op mid-combo and continue it for the kill (with maybe another photo op). Or maybe zoning characters, who generally have low damage combos… if you can level frank to 4 after it, then you can use chip to finish the character off.
Anyway, i’ll keep you guys posting with my lab work 