You will note that both arcs share a common point in that a hyped character who is supposed to be a main draw loses almost instantly at the start of a fight to a kick to the nads.
The other problem with the prisoner arc was it never having a clear resolution. Yes, it did end, but it didnât end in a climax since all of the prisoners were too weak and had completely divergent storylines.
But Ali Jr. was absolutely ridiculous.
Canât believe Ali Jr. went after Bakiâs girl. Pathetic. If I spoiled anything for anyone I donât care because the arc sucks.
The newest chapter of Tough is out. Holy shit.
I favor Jet over Kibo. Seiko is one beast of a father.
Gotta disagree with you here bro, sure there were some ok bits, but it was just sloppy, and disjointed, and the resolutions for the prisoners were just fucking stupid. After that my expectations for NGB was completely low(the Raitai arc was fucking awesome though). Ali Jr. though was just completely dumb with all the hypeâŠ
SPOILER YADA YADA
and Ali schooling Doppo, Gouki, and then losing to Jack. There was absolutely no fucking reason from that, but that he completely jobbed to Baki was the ultimate spit in the face, ESPECIALLY after that whole spiel about the âAli Fighting Methodâ being perfectedâŠright before he got one shotted, riiiiiiiight.
spoiler
Re: 270,
Iâm not sure, but did Baki just pull an Oliva on Yuuji?
EDIT:
Mr_snow, also check out the Taniguchi Jiro version of Garouden, itâs a one shot, but is more gritty, vintage style(I think it came out in the 90s or 80s) and I did like it but wished there was more of it, though the ending was pretty succinct.
@Hate: Yeah that was Great Tatsumi vs Crybaby Sakura
Garouden(JIRO version)
Tanba in Garouden Boy, Garouden Fighting Wolves, and Garouden(JIRO version) is all the same Tanba? Because as beast as he was in Garouden, seeing him in Garouden(JIRO version) is baffling.
I remember Ali besting Doppo and Gouki. Straight bullshit.
Any french speakers? This is an interview with Taniguchi Jiro revolving around Garoudenâs publishing:
http://www.kewego.com/video/iLyROoaf2M51.html
@Hate, yep, all the same guy. Garoudenâs pretty popular in Japan and has had several media adaptations. The Tanba in the live action film is probably closer to the JIRO version, as Itagaki did take several liberties (FAW, Great Tatsumiâs org was originally called Toyo Puro Resu as it is in the JIRO version, and also other things though I donât know the rest, having not read the original novels.)
Wait a minute is Baki fighting Yuujiro now? Holy hell what happens in between Jackâs fight with Pickle?
The same thing that happens when boxing has a fight with anything.
Ali jr. schooling Doppo?!?! :wtf:
http://www.pictoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/funny-cat-gif-7.gif
This is the look on my face. 
BEWD, maybe you should change the thread to to âGrappler Baki and various Martial Arts manga threadâ Seeing how other series are also mentioned.
âŠand if possible could you update the first post with a list of recommended Martial arts manga?
I couldnât catch everything, but you should get the point across. Okay, okay, proofreading this makes feel like Iâm watching those anime HK bootlegs againâŠ
PROLOGUE
A small (train) station in the suburbs (might refer to 'hood ghetto) of Tokyo
The sun sets on a street,
Calm, that goes along a canal.
There are a few things surreal.
Are we really en route to the workshop
of Jiro Taniguchi where before,
Without knowing, come into
of his stories,
grabbed by the <<quietude?>> of his drawings?
We are at Taniguchiâs (place)?
We (are?) maybe in one of his drawings.
Who knows?
PROLOGUE END
Knock
Taniguchi: Yes
T: Dozo (?)
Interviewer: Konnichiwa
chatter
Narrator: There are book everywhere. There are comic books --??? (of every corner of the world (maybe))-- in piles. Some werenât open. There are also a lot of discs. ---- of the French Dominique H in the <<Quartier Lointain>> (thatâs one of his previous works apparently) ----???â. Taniguchi said he likes it/him (referring to the something or someone else?) even if he doesnât understands the lesser word. He is a little stressed about an intruding presence in his small studio, a little stressed about France discovering Garouden â???---- He (Taniguchi) says, "Of course, in France the readers know about my work, a little poetic, a little romantic, very contemplative. I have also realized manga more black, harder. Garouden makes a part of this genre of story.
More later, or at least Iâll revise this maybe because I canât help but chuckle when I read this. It sounds weird.
please keep translating! XD
Iâve been thinking about everyoneâs hatred of Baki wrecking Ali so fast. I remember reading a part in the scenes where someone (donât recall who) mentioned that those two fighters were of such exceptional skill that a fight like theirs wouldnât go on beyond the first couple hits. And think about it, in real life street fights are decided almost instantly. Baki always seemed like it was trying to be as real as possible, albeit with incredibly lazy physics apparently. Just my thought on the matter.
Man BEWD, were you arguing that the Ali arc was the worst part or not? Iâm not defending the prisoner arc (shit was stupid), but Ali was stupid, boring, and just wrong. Snow, the fight itself was bad because that was the last time for the arc to be redeemed.
Lol man, letâs just say NGB as a whole was garbage when you took out the few good parts(Raitai and a few others).
Full translation of interview, thank damboss of ritualscanforge:
"Yo Metsudragon, from what I remember you are also BEWD on SRK, which I sometimes readon, but donât take part in.
Here is a translation of the short video you found about Taniguchiâs Garoden which was published in France for the first time a month ago. Donât hesitate to share with your forum buddies.
Description :
Japanese Manga artist Jiro Taniguchi opened the doors of his workshop in Tokyo to lâEquipe magazine (famous French sports daily newspaper). This happened to celebrate the pre-publishing of âGarodenâ, one his unreleased manga, all summer long, before it is released by Casterman as a complete story, in September.
Prologue :
A small train-station in the suburbs (might refer to
'hood ghetto) of Tokyo,
The sun sets on a street,
Calm, that goes along a canal.
There is something that feels unreal.
Are we really en route to Jiro Taniguchiâs workshop
or have we already,
without noticing, entered
one of his stories,
grabbed by the peacefulness of his drawing style ?
We are at Taniguchiâs.
Or maybe are We in one of his books.
Who knows?
(Man he really has lots of books o_0
Narrator :
There books everywhere. Comics from all around the world, piled up. Some have not been opened.
There are many discs as well, including one from french singer Dominic A, who sings âQuartier Lointainâ (first manga of Taniguchi ever published in France). Taniguchi says he likes it even though he doesnt get a single word of it.
He is a little stressed due to the intrusion of strangers in his small studio. He is stressed as well at the idea of letting France discover, through âGarodenâ, a misknown part of his work.
He says âof course Iâm kind of anxiousâ. In France, readers only know his poetic, sentimental, contemplative works so far.
âIâve made a lot of darker, more mature comics (compared to those published in France until now). Garoden is one of those. Iâm a little scared about how it will be welcomedâ.
When he is asked about his works at this time, he finds back his composure and his peace, he smiles and gathers his memories :
âI like those old drawings, theyâre full of energy. I remember myself, the commitment I put in my work⊠I think I would not be able to give that much nowadays. I wouldnât be able to make these kind of drawing, at least not this goodâ.
He goes on :
âI wanted so much to translate what I had in my mind. Sports are a very difficult topic for me. In the beginning I wanted to tell a story about cyclism but I did not manage to do it. Itâs hard to draw scenes of a bycicle race. Fighting surely fit me better. I thought about Muhammad Aliâs matches, this kind of universe. Wrestling, like boxing, fits perfectly dark stories (âromans noirsâ)â.
Taniguchi is moved, you can see it, so before getting back to work, guiding his assistants, he draws the backgrounds of his images, and comes back to his early years, that he is going to somehow, show to his French audience.
âI find an incredible power in my (old) style, this vital energy that was part of me, a strong will. Iâm proud of these drawingsâ.
He has the right to be. âGarodenâ is some really good Taniguchiâs. Another TaniguchiâŠ
With time going on, he says, the passions have gone wiser, calmed down.
âYou can see it in my work, urgency has turned into serenity, whatever manga style I publish.
I let go traditional sports to get more into adventure, mountain for an example, especially the link that ties it to Man, and how the Man compares himself to it.
This fascinates me now, whereas I was all about cyclism, boxing or wrestling when I was younger. There are, in alpinism, some lessons that are more related to the man I am nowadaysâ.
A man who opens to your vision, revealing his workshop for the time of this very short film, revealing also this young mangaka he used to be, whose work is part of his magistral work.
END
For LâĂ©quipe Mag.fr"
New Meguru, Minoru, and RRR.
RRR is pretty good, and actually has a lot (probably around 100) chapters out in jpn. Less serious and technical than other series, but I like it.