You sure? I find safe DF dive kick setup against Dan’s 4-frame koryu. On reversal, Gouken blocks. On nothing, Dan blocks.
Not been able to get it to work in Super. I would say, with some careful spacing, it’s doable - much like how Guile could technically safe jump shotos.
Edit: Apologies. Does work, but timing is strict. It’s either immediate df with 1f delay on dive kick or 1f frame delay on df and immediate dive kick, against Dan. The timing against Blanka is different, the same timing you would use against Sagat works.
would like to share some stuff below:
Fast Demon Flip vs Slow Demon Flip
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Standing HP on counter
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Standing MP on counter
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F+MP (overhead) on counter
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Tetsumaki Gorasen getaway
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simple cross up
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hey viper came across your fight vids this morning while browsing yt. really like them keep up the good work 
I was thinking Gouken is a character that cannot do massive combos from light attacks (e.g. Ryu, Ken, Sagat, Akuma, Cody, Guy, Dudley), then one must know all of his abilities. The cross ups, the counter attacks, demon flips, throw ranges…etc But Recently from Japanese wiki, Gouken is ranked as C+ character. Therefore, we must always think strategies against other characters (character-specific).
Gouken has a set of unique moves (which I love) different from Ryu, Ken, Akuma. All of these make the opponent approach you different with the shotos. I got my stuff mainly from Desora, and rauymnn. They inspired me how to use Gouken. Well, i would like to share all of them, and that’s when other players comment on my videos and share what they know!
This is the best way to do it.
I’m going to have to start looking for counter hits more often. Overhead into combo seems incredibly useful if I can get it down.
nice vids, and dam you stole my idea for a new avatar… only differnce, i wanted the pause when the Denjib is just charging and there 2 balss( nohomo) of blue electricity just forming and the lighting connection in the middle…<<< w/e i get $$ for a t…e thats gonan be my template pictuure, with deejay my alt somewhere in the background ina hammock listening to headphones lol:lovin:
Something has changed about Gouken’s hitbox or dash that’s allowing for 1 EX-bar Sakura-esque 50/50 mixups in the corner. Got a few examples of it in this video. Plus some other things I’ve been working on thrown in for good measure.
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Amazing video, dude! I love the new resets, or 50/50s. I’ll definitely try to keep some of these in mind for when I use Gouken. ;D
Would the auto-correct on SRK-type moves destroy these mixups?
Wow some impressive stuff there man. I’ve been trying out some characters and am thinking about coming back and trying Gouken again. Something about the old men got me since I’ve been playing Gen as well. Plus ummm Makoto.
Daigo (Ryu) Vs Desora (Gouken)
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Is there a vid of the entire set?? I want to see what adjustments Desora made to adjust for the hado spam and cr. mk ~ hado.
I don’t understand why he didn’t use ex hadou when he was walking forward to stop him from jumping?
Well, can’t know what was going on.
It’d be easy for anybody to armchair critique him, but he was playing Daigo + that matchup is no way in hell 5-5.
sexy stuff
agreed
Hence why I can’t know what was going on.
I suppose there’s not harm in discussing his mistakes, not meaning I would do better in his shoes, but just learning from his experience?
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just a random online match, but what i want to draw attention to is at 0:13 when gouken tries to counter the light sonic boom followed by guiles punch. A nerf on the counter?
I guess not. You’re right. My thoughts…
1:17 – Looks like he had enough time kongo the jump kick if he was anticipating it
1:23 – Why would you voluntarily get that close to a shoto on wakeup?
1:28 – Hard to tell but he may have enough recovery time to throw out a cr.mp to deter ryu if he sees a focus through his fireball
1:31 – Daigo conditioned him to jump?
1:43 – Obviously nervous or online lag(?)
1:49 – I think he should have went back to fireballing
1:54 – may have been a good time to do a surprise ex. hado
2:06 – I dunno. I’ve given up trying to jump on a shoto without demon flip. At least the SRK trades more now.
2:09 – empty demon flip… Daigo probably has seen that from enough Akumas…
After that he was basically stuck in losing 50/50 situations in the corner.
when you’re playing against daigo and using a mid tier character, i’m sure doing completely unpredictable things catches him off guard and can give you somewhat of an edge. on that video with desora, daigo just guessed right anytime he tried to go random and unpredictable.