It’s not even worth back dashing them. Fuerte only has to change his timing slightly, and hits Gouken’s massive hitbox with virtually any of his options. And if he meaties the tortilla throw, even if you backdash and avoid it, he can still punish with a sweep n your recovery.
It’s really not as cut and dry as you think it is, it’s all guesswork. There’s no “I can do this everytime, and get out”, because Gouken can’t.
Sup Bros, i uploaded a Combo vid. There are many chars included with Gouken.
Enjoy it ;).
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is anyone from the gouken thread going to Final Round? If not I’m going to be one of if not the only Gouken repper there. Raun, kiaakelly and others, please help me train up on xbl soon
the only thing i could help you practice is the gouken mirror!
first to 10 with dc hustle 106’s balrog
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/8/nb9eacocrw0
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/7/rUU68_jcgI0
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/6/r-DuILuMYxw
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/5/lDX54f-IwXc
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/4/mAGx26BjqhQ
first to 10 with nbg insaynne’s blanka
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn#p/u/4/BQKSE9nee70
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn#p/u/3/2z7g5ijL8R0
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn#p/u/2/5PFrArFPd7I
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn#p/u/1/mE15RpGUoDg
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn#p/u/0/1PEuWqEN7WE
How do you get the crossup Demon Flip divekick consistently? I’m trying it on Ryu after forward throw or ultra and I only get it like 20%. It either whiffs or doesn’t hit crossup.
i dont get it consistently.
thats why i am always getting (df dive kick > c.hp xx ex counter) from the front.
but, since i dont know which side it will land on, neither do they.
i know the timing to make dp’s whiff, so i just start from there and try to cross up.
getting it after forward throw and after ultra is more consistent for me than getting it after (ex palm > c.hk).
gouken’s forward throw is deadly because of it.
characters with larger hit boxes are easier to land it on as well.
ryu is a pain.
first to 10 against shine in the gouken mirror:
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/6/mZgsN-oYuik
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/5/n5B7X7BpqEM
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/4/_46rc5FjeWg
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/3/AdQHxcMZac0
first to 10 against ifc zangief:
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/2/3ZCDrkpexVM
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/1/VwS6QMbU1Ao
http://www.youtube.com/user/raunwynn?feature=mhw4#p/u/0/Vg4sRdLXM74
first to 10 against shizza’s chun li:
geez raun, you are putting these up faster than I can find time to watch them. I wish I had a cam good enough to record anything more than a blurry smeary mess.
Not many safe dive kicks against that Chun. She’s free on wake up man.
lol, shine, ifc zangief and shizza were all on the same night.
it took me a few days to get them all finished.
pfft, why must i have a job?!?!
there is a lot i can learn from that set.
You can safe dive kick the EX SBK?
Yuuuuuuuuup.
You don’t even need to safe jump it. You’ll flat out beat EX SBK most of the time with the dive kick even if he tries to time it late.
I prefer not to safe jump it because good Chuns will be really annoying and backdash the dive kick if you do.
That’s why you option select with sweep. VORRRTEEXXXX!
Bitch can’t get away from Gouken, at all, once she’s knocked down.
Also, in answer to Raun’s question in the Shizza videos, instant overhead roundhouse is punishable by walkup > sweep on hit and block. From anywhere on the screen.
Not enough poking in those Zangief videos. Use s.mk / s.hk / c.hk. He cannot ex-hand on reaction against s.mk - it has to be a guess.
i have watched them a bunch of times now.
i think the main problem i had was giving him empty jump ultra a lot.
i poke at him effectively with c.hk, nj.hp and lk.df dive kick > c.lp string, but some s.mk and s.hp would have been good too.
many of those rounds were close, but i kept falling for his ultra setups.
When your cr.hp whiffed on IFC Zangief, that wasn’t Zangief’s hitbox being weird. Zangief has two different jump heights. He has a ‘short jump’ which is a jump that has a lower trajectory. He can use this to land right in front of you and avoid a lot of anti-airs. I think the best ways around this would be j.mp, far s.hp, or lk tatsu as anti-air. Otherwise you can’t anti-air Zangief consistently.
Far standing fierce.
All.Fuckin.Day.
And if you trade (which you shouldn’t), who gives a fuck? The damage and stun are ALWAYS worth it.