Gouken Videos

It’s just a Canon Powershot SD600 - it’s a couple years old. It can record at 30fps though, and it doesn’t get the common Ghosting when recording video, which is very nice.

Stolen from the Gen thread:

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Nice Gouken

Good vid man, they guy actually used a kongoshin cancel! I fudged that in a fight before and man it is sweet, but he made it look easy!

Awesome Gouken! I loved the Counter FADC > dash > palm at 4:12.

Would love to see him play against another char but Gen, Ryu or something.

Holy shit that japanese player knows his tech.

is an extra palm strike worth two bars?

I would probably say no but maybe he did it to get his opponent in the corner?

it put the gen player farther into the corner than he would have been without the palm strike, but the gouken player did not seem interested in creating any corner pressure at that time.

Im not saying it’s practical, im just saying it looks cool… Besides, he had 2 EX bars left afterwards so he wouldn’ be lacking EX moves or chances anyways, and isnt a hit a hit? No point in farming or saving EX and not use it ;D

i am not criticizing your appreciation of that technique.
i am new to sf4 and i am curious if experienced players feel that trading two bars for an extra fierce hit is economical.
i tend to look at a full meter as giving me an extra tool.
for example, with a full meter my back throw gains potency similar to having ultra.

The counter goes from 180 without the palm to 300 with the palm, and it’s really not as hard as it looks to pull off. After 20 minutes in Trial mode I can pull it off pretty consistently.

That 140 extra points can be the difference between a win and a loss.

Edit: When you’re closeish to the corner (Like jump-in from corner range), you can cancel it into ultra. Or anything you want really.
Put them in the corner, wait for them to jump out, counter, ULTRA.

Ok a few here from a recent tournament.

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my favorite - for the full impact of what i was feeling, watch this all in one sitting
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i’m not sure if we are thinking the same thing, but in the video he did a counter -> FADC into dash, then dash palm. The combo takes only 1 bar of EX.

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u need to watch closely again. It takes 2 bars. I might consider doing this if i had 4 bars of EX though. Anything less and probably not. My rationale behind this is that i dun like having all 4 bars as I tend to execute the super instead of EX palm becos i do the full motion of the palm.

that was a nice performance under tournament pressure siyko.
it must have made you feel really good when people were saying “wow, a gouken player!”

Impressive, great matches Siyko. I think all Gouken community thanks you for your contribution and is with you in every match.

I don’t want to write spoilers about the result of the matches

I’ve noticed that, after a demon flip kick (usually the ex demon flip kick) you used to do s.hp xx ex palm, dash, tatsu (for damage) or s.hp xx ex palm, palm (to take them to the corner and pressure after)…
…but in the latest videos, i’ve seen demon flip kick into c.lp, c.lp, s.lp, s.lk, c.mp, gohadouken/another demon flip/ FA …

you do that blockstring if you are not sure if demon kick will hit? (normal demon flip instead of ex, or such)
is palm so unsafe on block?
i’ve read in framedata that lp, mp and hp palm are all -6 on block, and ex palm -5… does that mean that they are punishable by a free grab?

Thanks for the vids and sorry the questions :smiley:

It’s rather sad that we have to resort to things like this. I don’t have to do this that much with Gouken but I find myself intentionally burning meter when I am Seth just so I am not full.

i get ex palm instead of ultra now and then but i never get super instead of specials or ex moves.

in your last video post siyko, when you were fireballing at gief full screen while he was spamming lariat, i was curious what the effect of lp fireball/fierce palm would be.
if palm ends in strike animation just outside of lariat, does it trade?