While the Karadouken look decent. I doubt it actually will do anything real useful since the timing is fairly tight. Won’t hurt though. Definitely going to give it a try.
It’s about the same as Sagat’s Kara Tiger Shots with all the benefits of Sagat’s Kara Tiger Shots. This is one of those pieces of information that could be a game changer. I can’t wait to hear the changes he’s getting in AE to see how everything will come together for Gouken.
I don’t doubt that it can become very useful, but I do think it have much much tighter timing and less spacing improvement then Sagat’s Kara Tiger shot. I will try it out and see. Didn’t even know it is possible.
If you can kara throw you can kara fireball with Gouken. If you can plink you can kara fireball with Gouken. People do both of these consistently with other characters. The timing isn’t impossible to get down consistently.
I agree 100%. It just takes a lot of practice. I’ve been playing around with his kara throws but still cant do them on a consistent basis and end up getting hk instead lol then gettin my ass handed to me. 
but nothing a little more lab time wont cure.
In the meantime i put up some more vids to share with u guys. I’ve been running into a lot of ryus for some reason these days which is good for me cuz i used to struggle A LOT against this match up but i’ve been getting much better with being able to zoning him with simple lp fbs. I barely throw out AA fbs anymore cuz most ppl predict them and just dash in for a full punish.
Anyhoo…hope u guys enjoy the matches and pls any comments or criticism is more than appreciated.
THANKS FELLAS!
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Everyone you played in these videos was awful. Nobody did a single hit-confirm combo or combo into ultra. Most of them were jump happy and loved to do reversals. However, you were good with your combos and you had some nice setups for demon flip. You need to anti-air with cr.hp a lot better. Do it every time they jump at you.
You can find some good players at #streetfighter4 on quakenet irc. Or you can add me and we’ll play some.
It’s not hard. Takes practice, but it’s no harder than a normal plink. I’ve known how to do it for a while, but just now got to the point where I can do it at will for each fireball I throw and be able to properly switch between normal and AA kara fireballs when needed.
As far as application, it works EXACTLY like Sagat’s. You can option select it on meaties and is pretty low risk.
As someone who has terrible execution, I actually find the kara-fb to be very easy to do. After watching the video posted yesterday, I decided to see if I could learn it in training mode. I found that when I performed it using the tiger knee motion, I could get it to come out every time. Instead of performing the sweep, I would get the kara-fb. Try ending the fireball motion with up-forward and see if that helps:
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The difficult part isn’t about doing a Karadoken. More the part where you have to fit it into pressure game. At the moment, I can’t actually find a spot where that extra little bit of space is worth using instead of a godoken cancelled from say c.mp or c.lk.
Any idea what exact situation would make a Kara-fb useful?
LordMelchiahX: Did I fought you before on Random Ranked?
Cr.hp for AA more frequently dully noted. And i would love to add u. I will the next time i log on man. Looking forward to some good fights.
Funny I never thought about that. I will try that out maybe i’ll stop whiffing most of the damn time. Thx for the tip.
RandomUltra sounds very familiar for some reason. I think u kicked my ass didnt u? Do u also main Gouken? Either way man i think we most likely have played cuz i normally prefer playing ppl in canada cuz of better connection. Add me on psn man we can play on endless.
[media=youtube]CCGJtADfGT0]YouTube - KEIKE DESORA [Gouken] vs kokuisp [Gouken[/media]
[media=youtube]B70YICXZcis]YouTube - Bullcat [Gouken] vs wa75842 [Viper[/media]
[media=youtube]FBU_AhHW60c]YouTube - Bullcat [Gouken] vs issk3 [Balrog[/media]
[media=youtube]4K9bAeowYvM]YouTube - Bullcat [Gouken] vs jyobin [Ryu[/media]
kara-fireball seems pretty useful, like when they are getting close to the corner, but no there yet and you throw that lp fireball to juggle them, walk a bit and shin sho as they fly back.
I know also that sometimes fireballs connect after non-fadc ex palms, maybe this will make it connect more?
You’ve always been able to EX Palm > LP Hadou, even in Vanilla it was possible. Not really worth it since midscreen it does terrible damage and doesn’t give great positioning as opposed to MP/HP palm.
True, but maybe now since we are closer it would allow more things like say, an lp palm?
I’m just suggesting stuff while I’m at work and can’t test for myself.
EX Palm -> lp hado -> lp/mp palm is a good combo when you’re kinda close to the corner but not really. Sometimes I’ve done EX Palm -> lp hado -> dash sweep in that positioning but it’s weird.
from my sloppy testing, back throw, non-kara fb into st. hk doesnt work where the kara-fb works.
maybe that kara fb into dash sweep would be easier with the kara too? will try it.
speaking of back throwing and fireballing back throw fireball super is tight. just sayin.
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