Gouken SF4 Ultra Updates

The f.mp chop does a force stand meaning c.lp can be cancelled into a regular rh tat then fadc to ultra. So you won’t have to waste meter.

True. In case they block it, they could duck, and the lk tatsu would miss. hit confirm it everytime and you’ll be all set.

Otherwise, just be a scrub like me and burn that gas.

It also works mid screen: f.throw, 3 dashes, f.mp = meaty overhead.( on everyone except dhal, sagat, hakan, blanka, claw)

2 frame link sir, no disrespect. Meaty overhead is +5, new 3 frame jab would equal 2 frames. It was a one frame before but now it’s a 2 framer.

Dang, I gotta learn how to read frame data like that.

Correct me if I’m wrong:

if it was +3 it would be a 1 frame link, correct? meaning I could still get it, but it would be frame tight. if it was +4, I hard two frames to get it, meaning, frame 3 and 4 of the hit stun, and so on?

Maybe +3 means it’s a 0-frame link? Could be that, I honestly don’t know if that’s how you call it.

Oh no no no you’re absolutely right man. Sorry I was thinking about something else. You’re right, the new jab is a 3 frame link; its f.st.mp that’s a 2 frame link now. Sorry man, I was working on meaty overhead setups last week and confused myself.

I apologize for the confusion.

3 frame jab after a +5 meaty over head is a 3 frame link.

That means that the overhead doesn’t have to be meaty frame perfect for the link to work. That’s good news.

Well yeah but if it’s not meaty the link gets smaller and smaller. So if you don’t hit it meaty, maybe 2 frames off, it would make it a 1 frame link.

Bullshit Alert… Since the first hit of tiger knees makes you stand, if you trade on first hit of tiger Knee it will force you to stand and get combo’d.

He can also fadc first hit and combo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SckYo-MOMTI&feature=youtu.be&t=8m25s

Mike Ross predicts Gouken is top 5 in Ultra :stuck_out_tongue:

He’s reaaaaaaaally good

I just want to say I love EX TASTU and I will be getting married to it very soon.

Just coming in to express more love for EX tatsu. <3 Capcom for that.

It hadn’t occurred to me before cuz I’m a scrub, but the s.lk buff is really a lot better than I thought.

You can now whiff punish vs low pokes without crouching… that’s a really, really massive change at high level, because Gouken is already really large and his backwards walk speed isn’t anything worth writing home about. I can’t wait to see some of those high level Goukens tearing up the footsies range.

So we are closing in on a week and nobody has anything for DWU???

:slight_smile:

yes, i have, either meaty fireball or b.dash for position… i hate dwu!

in the moment i think dwu hurts gouken as due to ex tatsu he wasnt that free to pressure anymore

LOL.

I’ve been able to manual dive kick them and cover both norm and dwu… I have some canned stuff too :slight_smile: … I’m just checking to see if anybody else has anything yet or if any one else has been putting any time into it. It’s pretty much the only thing I’ve been doing since last week.

Don’t want to be the only one putting it work on it and sharing if nobody else is sharing…

Once I finish data collecting (I want to cover the whole cast and all HKD’s), I’m going to make a vid., even though I’ve been mulling against it.

dive or flip? care to elaborate?

i play around with old set ups i.e jump + down mk. if i see the tech sign mid jump i do iaa j.hk which can punish throw but of corse not reversals…

need more lab…

For example.

I hard knock them down- I jump in and dive kick, the scenario will be as followed.

a) hard knock down normal wake up = I dive kick they reversal, I tag them.
=They do nothing = they block/continue your string

b) hard knock down delayed wake up =I true safe jump or faux, if they reversal I tag them.
=They do nothing = block/bait/continue your string.

Continue on to another hard knock down and rush them down through vortex. Same shit I’ve done for years.

DWU slowed this down for other characters because they can’t alter their jumps ins. Once they leave their feet they are committed, unless they have a dive kick then you can alter your jump in timing.

I assume any dive kick character can still do this, some better than others. I went right in and found a set up with Akuma. I even questioned their forum to see what people are doing or have found.

I really struggle with making the video because it’s the same things that I’ve been standing firm on for the last 4 years and instead of listen… well they just don’t.

There was even a coup to vote me off the boards.

Then I look at my avatar and it makes any decision I make okay… lol.

Hey Takin, you know what’s up! I’m thinking of going back to the days where shit was a damn secret. LOL.

Jump in on someone and they be like WTF? I did delayed wake up… LMAO…

But in all honesty, if you do a late dive kick you can hit this window. It’s lab time folks!

I would love to do some research, but as a member of the “I’m too poor to afford a console so I use a PC” master race, I don’t have the game yet. :slight_smile:

I assure you that when August comes around I’ll hit the lab and share what I find if you haven’t found it all, already.