Dude, check the video thread. Gaku posts here.
Did they shave off the extra recovery we have for whiffing backthrow? Can we tech consistently now?
I hope Gouken’s Demon Flip dive kick is still blockable using the opponent’s head, in the fitting tribute to the game’s creator, Ed Boon, it is clearly meant to be.
In Japan, USF4 released in 17th. I have brought some information about USF4 Gouken.
-far.st.LK cancelable
-LP.Palm’ hit box expanded
It’s no use!..just joking. But some Gouken players say “I can’t feel big effect from these yet.”
-cr.MP on hit +1F to +3F
It is very good. We get new combos and new weapon for poke.
-3F start up cr.LP
3F start up is great, but we need to train cr.LP - cr.LP - cr.LPxxSpecial.
And as a bad news, cr.LP whiff against crouching Elena X-( this issue already reported in location test, but Capcom doesn’t fix it.
-5F EX.tatsu(and hit box expanded)
This Tatsu is broken. We can use EX.tatsu in many ways such as punish, anti air, reversal…
But when we use EX.tatsu for anti-air, it might do Tatsu in too fast timing for time being.
And there is a bad news too. If you do EX.Tatsu against Poison, the last hit of Tatsu whiff and you punished in some situation.
-Ultra combo double
-Red focus
We need time to test these new system. This is just my opinion but these don’t fit with Gouken…
-Delayed wake up
It has become difficult to we to hit existing set up, and we just started searching new setups for DW.
Hello, Gaku. Thank you for your information as always.
I was wondering if you have tested Gouken’s new EX Tatsu vs. low meaty attacks on wake-up.
For example, do we hit Ryu performing c.MK, or even characters performing slides? Does the hitbox go all the way to the ground, or was it just lowered slightly so that it hits crouching opponents?
I just saw Infiltration play at a location test I don’t know if he knew about the new features but it was definitely looking like the same old Gouken.
If they wanna normalize back throw then just normalize it and make it 3 frames like everyone else’s throw. But give us back full damage. If we can magically land a normal throw in a world where everyone is good at teching then full damage, unscaled, should be the reward.
I haven’t tested but I hear reversal EX.Tatsu beat Juri’s meaty cr.MK, and I have no information about Ex.Tatsu vs slide.(like blanka, Guy and Rose…etc)
Agreed 120% con that!!!
Agreed 100 + 50%!!!
I don’t care what it is whether its his throw, reversal, or priority he needs something to discourage rapid fire jabs into combos in his face. People throw ridiculous caution to the wind to get to him cause they know its worth it. You don’t see people running at Zangief or T. Hawk like they dont have any sense.
IMO Either of these would solve the problem…
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BackThrow should have been a command grab - See Makoto’s command grab
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Tatsu should operate like a DP - See Tiger Uppercut
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Kongo should counter everything (grabs and attacks without armor break) - With a longer recovery
With either one of those, people would do half the dumb shit they do against Gouken right now.
As I understand it, EX Tatsu behaves as Tiger Uppercut on steroids in the current Ultra build
^ Tiger uppercut is good with or without meter… Can’t say the same for tatsu.
Gouken is very dependent on meter, but none of the other shotos don’t need meter to uppercut your ass.
It is what it is, but I’d love to tatsu the living shit out of people all the time and if they block it meter or no meter.
Would be nice if our lk. tatsu was one hop up. The height of ryu lp.shoryu BUT the more times you do the tatsu command the more hits you get and higher you go… kind of like how tatsu’s worked in streetfighter ex
Yeah there are so many things that could work a little better for us… Hopefully we can get some more love when the patch comes out.
So I was playing salpacino and I tatsued ex of course , with a good wakeup read…
and saw ex tatsu fly thru his standing Mk or some standing normal…
That’s strange…
I lost my hope to play Gouken competitively. I just play him for fun now.
Don’t expect anything more. (Althought you got your list right… )
…any rumors about stealth buffs/nerfs yet?