Gouken SF4 Ultra Updates

At Final Round sitting down at an Ultra setup now. II’ll report back with the scoop.

5th Character news first. Gouken can wait

They won’t be announcing that until tomorrow or Sunday evening I believe

I just cant wait to play ultra gouken.

Me 2

I’m sure theres a mod around somewhere. :3

So no news on the latest build at Final Round? Or is it the same as the last one?

Dek, I’m dying to hear your impressions of Ultra Gouken!!! Let us know already!

Why doesn’t Gouken have ONI far standing mk???

Why does Gouken have to worry about a Cammy clone??? Capcom you copy and pasting MF’s!!!

Any news or nothing worthwhile to report?

Really interested in hands-on reports regarding:

  • 3fr jab and 1fr hitconfim in LP rush punch
  • range on far.LK or cr.LK into LP rush punch
  • stealth nerfs to new extatsu (hitbox?)
  • etc.

Yeah, sorry guys, Final Round was soooooooo crazy. Alright so tatsu is gdlk but we knew that already. Only thing is that because it starts up faster you have to delay a slight bit now but I’m sure we’ll all get used to that. Cr.lp is awesome and that link is easy as pie. Cr.lpx3tatsu, cr.lpx3lp palm both work. Its not a chain though, the last.cr.lp is a link. Cr.mp is decent. Its not what it should be but its good enough to shimmy (gootecks) which is in itself good. Atm we can only frame trap into damage by being close which loses to throw. Now we can walk out of range, cr.mp xx hado xx fadc to pain train with the threat of being close and st.throw eating your frame trap. F.st.lk is ass. Its good at maybe poke punishing buffering ex tatsu (MAYBE - didnt test at max range countering pokes) but because they didnt change the frames to match Oni’s its kinda useless. Lp palm doesnt even come CLOSE to connecting at max range. It comes as close as connecting at max range as much as cr.mp xx hado is a block string in ae2012.

Any other questions, ask’em

Cool, were there any other changes at the location test? I guess you would have told us, but it doesn’t hurt to ask!

Do you think it’s worth select-plinking the jab link? Also, did you try cancelling a chained fs.lk into special? (Yeah I know it shouldn’t work, but E Ryu’s does… sooo)

How do you think the light link will fit into Gouken’s current playstyle, other than being able to link them from his command divekick (which isn’t that important but I like it a lot, haha).

Thanks!

many thx!

  • does cr.lp x lp senku connect on max range of cr.lp? currently there are ranges it can completely whiff.
  • how is cr.lk x lp senku?
  • has the downward, low hit box of extatsu the same range?
  • any changes to u1?
  • any new (stealth) changes?
  • cr.hk unchanged?

Everything no!! Shitty as it is.

I am liking the new c.jab for mainly defensive and offensive purposes, can’t wait to test it. The jabbing combo into either tat or palm will just be part of Gouken’s game of keeping the challenger back to start the zoning game since it knocks them across the screen but at least it’s a combo finisher finally.

How’d you place in the tourney? I didn’t see your name on the results page.

Did you get to play any casuals with Ultra Gouken? Did he feel generally stronger? Did people respect your wake up more? Personally, I’ve been counting the number of times I would have nailed someone with EX tatsu on wakeup if it had the lower hitbox.

Were you able to abuse the Cr.MP for corner combos (ala Cs.MP>Fireball> Cr.MP> Fireball > FADC > Cs.MP>Fireball> Cr.MP> Fireball)? I’ve recently put this into my game, but with S.MP obviously, and it’s already making opponents shit their pants when you corner them. I know that being able to connect with Cr.MP instead would just make that much easier and Gouken that much more terrifying with frame traps like you said.

No other hidden changes that I could tell. It’s definitely worth plinking anytime you can although the link wasn’t hard at all. It took me about 3 times to get the timing but after that it was easy. It’s supposed to be a one frame link but it feels like doing Akumas f.st.hk xx cr.mp. I didn’t check the chain cancel but I highly doubt you can.

I’m confused on your last question; can you clarify?

Cr.lpx3 xx lp palm works. Cr.lk xx lp palm is decent, the range is only extended slightly further. Tatsu has the range of f.st.mk from the tip of his foot but now extended to the ground. No stealth changes as far as I could tell.

Oh but Ken has Goukens sweep now but with Ryu’s sweep range. He also has Akumas walk speed so he’s gonna be a nightmare for us.