Gouken Match-ups and Character Specifics

Blanka ball distance needed to be nerfed, most blanka players only compete with grab, slide, electricity, and blanka ball. Capcom improved his slide, but the made his ball punishable so he can’t just spam it. Instead it has to be used in combos, roll-grab, and punishment.

There are some matches where it’s almost impossible to punish, like with Gouken if you don’t block it standing you get nothing. That’s bull shit, and I’m glad it’s fixed. It’s a game changer, but good blankas will adjust.

HAHAHAHA! Seriously…weird ass jump arc, weird ass hit box, super fast special, sliding under the zone ball…

His wake-up sucks when he doesn’t have ex, but even when he doesn’t, I find meaties going right through his booger skin. Can’t stand that troll.

How do you Kara a fireball or a dashing palm?

fireball or srk motion s.hk~appropriate punch

Same way you kara a throw.

Actually do that with an SRK and you’ll get a demonflip, that ones timing needs to be a bit more specific to avoid that.

touche~

I did not even realize what I was saying.

It’s really easy to do, I rmemeber when I was in training testing out/practicing karas and thing and was suddenly all: Hey this might add some great distance to palms!. SO I did it and when the demonflip occured I slapped myself in the face for forgetting that detail XD

So… what are the command inputs for the kara fireball and kara dashing palm?

Kara Hadou: :qcf: :hk: ~ :lp: (ie plink the :hk: and :lp: , in training mode if you did it right it appears :hk: and the line above it as :hk: + :lp:

Same for Kara palm in theory except you need to push the :hk: before the :df: input and still manage to not get flip. I’m not sure it’s even possible(within my limited knowledge of kara’s and details anyway).

why would you want to kara fireball with gouken?

It moves you forward without having to move forward. Just like if at all possible I’ll kara focus then dash forward for the extra movement of closing in. Extra movement is nice, though of course it’s not always needed. Any extra tool is good to have.

Ok i was just in the lab learning how to fight vega. Now im not sure if this is old news to you guys but im going to post this stuff anyway plus i did not c anything about it in the vega vs gouken area.

Well first off Id like to add that you can focus his ex barsolona which yes i know all of you already know. Its very helpful though.

Second ive been working on my own OS dealing with is back flip. Now you cant hit him the whole time untill the very end of the flip. What i did was OS forward dash and then hit him with a CHP right when he came out of the backflip. This is the punch version. The kick version is alot quicker and can still work you just have to do everything faster. I got tired of vega’s doing this flip when I tried to meaty dive kick them so OS Forward dash wait (if punch version) then punish right when it ends. Now im not sure if this works if they have an ultra becuase vega has plenty of time to buffer in those back flips.

I dont know the name for vega’s backflip move and please correct me if im wrong with this information. Im just trying to add more information to the vega matchup.

No you can’t. German Lug3r uses the 2-hit EX Barcelona to hit people out of focus intentionally. You should play him when you get a chance, he has xbox live too.

I just on reaction walk up and sweep either flip. If he mixes up which one he does he can fuck up option selects and make you whiff.

i did not know Vega had 2 flips, i always just walked up n sweep too…as for the EX Barcelona, maybe he’s talking about the torpedo thing they do to go through fireballs, i’m pretty sure that i’ve focused those before

Those armor break.

Yes Raunwynn I use kara Fire balls. its great to bait jump ins with kara HP fireball. I cant deny I only use the technique when a player gets use to the basic fireball frames then I throw them off with the kara hp for baiting

how does a kara hp fireball bait a jump in better than a regular hp fireball?
i’m not messing with you guys or trying to be a dick, i just don’t understand why anyone would bother with the technique.

Actually German Lug3r is one of the main reason i took vega in the lab. Since you live in the st louis area you should come to this (Tournaments & Events[january-15th-stl-mo]-ybm-gamers-fest-super-street-fighter-4-tournament-257647/)

This saturday personal friends of mine are holding a tourny at Jamestown mall(You should know where thats at lol) It would be nice to meet u in person and get some matchs in.

Now chances are German Lug3r might show up along with Rex and all them. I hardly fight vega so I took him in the lab.

Now for starters… WHAT THE FUCK… He has a two hit Barcelona??? I did this in training mode over and over again and i was able to focus it what the hell does german lug3r do lol.

Now for the OS. Well you really just have to train your eye to catch which one they are doing. Although doing a sweep is a very good idea because you can keep the loop going with safe jumps and the sort. I know its not perfect but I think got something going here im going to keep working with it. My friend has added German lug3r to his list because he saw him at Gamestop one day and he never responds to invites are anything Apparently … >> <<… :confused:

FNEX Sliick has a good Vega too.

Unfortunately I dont have a camcorder to record and show you but trust me its a technique worth practicing. It has worked for me by using MP fireball and hard punch fireball kara. knowing he doesnt have a spam happy DP There are fighters that love to smartly jump in on Gouken knowing this I smartly kara HP fireball since it moves him forward opponents think they have enough time to jump in on me then bam Hp fireball then MP dash palm