Gouken, Make him a Master, SSF4 Changes

Gouken should put on a Santa suit at the peak of a whiffed hurricane kick.

Too much like SFIICE Bison.

What if you could charge the dash punch? Could be interesting.

Special music also needs to be added with blinking lights everywhere.

Slightly better normals (namely a cr.mp that combos into fireball and a jab that doesn’t suck dick), and a low-hitting ex tatsu.

He definatley lacks some wake up options, i’ve even toyed in my head with giving him a teleport to have a bit of a run away game butttt that would be sketchy. It couldn’t be as good as akuma’s, otherwise you wouldn’t be able to touch him.

He definatley could’ve been thought out better, his design has a few holes in it.

and he has a plethora of absolutely worthless ones.

either way, my original point was that Gouken is already pretty good; he just needs a few small things.

EDIT: I find Gouken’s design to be pretty damn good and well thought out.

He’s fine the way he is. I really don’t understand why ppl here need to buff him. He already HAS a wakeup and thats his reversal. And frankly his reversal being a wakeup is probably one of the best wakeups in the game. It hits from both sides whether your opponent is crossing him up or not. Its a GUARANTEED HIT, it will never trade. It also sets up for guessing games for jumping opponents whether or not he will do it or not. This gives chars like fei or other non-projectle char a headache trying to get in with his ultra fast recovery on fireballs. If they guess wrong they get sent flying across the screen trying to get in again. Leave gouken the way he is!

Because tweaks and upgrades will happened.

But people throw Gouken all over the place on the inside. I can’t really say WHAT would be a good solution, but just a few little here and there things would have to be done to make him a balanced character.

Let cr.lk and cr.mp combo into hadouken. A proper block string with a hadouken at the end is all I ask.

cr.mp xx fireball that actually combos would be nice.

tatsu hitting low would also be nice. As it is, if you land a FA on blanka then st.fp xx tatsu it will whiff. Other then hitting low a slightly lower recovery time then eternity would be good. It’s just way too much as it is.

Only other thing you can ask for is links that combo into a special but I’m not sure that is even needed… Gouken does deal a ton of damage.

His counters should stay the same but air parry shouldnt be able to be armor broken.

just a thought: New ultra: Gouken does a facepalm slide, pops the guys directly vertical (similar to ex) then throws the mother of all hadoukens straight up and hits him mid air

edit: this is just a cool-factor suggestion, i really could care less

No, that wouldn’t, it would make people -stop-. How do you get in on someone who can shoot a hadouken in every direction, essentially shoryuken them if they jump in, and there’s no wakeup pressure without being severely punished?

He doesn’t need a SRK type move, not even close, if you’re not good enough with his hadous that’s -entirely- on you. He has more than enough and is a solid character.

A more realistic request would be to give him better links, but that’s about as much of a buff as I’d give him. He’s already fantastic with outrageous damage potential and powerful zone game, decent mixup options and the back-throw to end all back throws.

Some things I’d like to see are:

  • Better throw range. His current range seems way too small.

  • Less recovery on hurricane kick. I mean, c’mon. It’s beyond terrible.

  • Make jab and/or short a bit faster

Just as a thought, what if he could cancel his Hadoukens? I play Balrog myself and have yet to go against any remotely good Goukens, so I have no idea what this would really do to his game, but it’s just a thought.

Instant Heaven Birth/Cesserian :looney:

  • either a 3-frame poke, OR better links. If both then I think gouken’s zoning game would get too good.
  • make EX tatsu hit crouched
  • shave off 5 frames or so on tatsu recoveries. Having it land, knock down the opponent, and they STILL recover faster than gouken is kinda stupid

and I think that’s all he needs…but I don’t spend too much time with gouken so here’s some salt

and oh yea…when akuma uses demon against gouken, the demon deals dmg back to akuma lol

What is this? I can’t even…

So, I’m quite confused, since the last I heard was that the console exclusive chars would be in Dash, except seth and Gouken. I’m assuming that they changed it based on the footage from the lineup video but there they only showed seth.

Should I just expect to see gouken in the roster? Would suck ass if they removed my main XD

I think the rumors said no Seth or Gouken in the arcade version, then again Ono said no arcade version, so whatever, who knows. They’ve never removed a player after an update, that’s for sure, much less two.

They didn’t say Oh snap CE bison is retarded good lets just remove him altogether!

ah, I see. Thanks :smiley: