Most people are just plain stupid and have NO sense of awareness.
It’s like the people I see that go swimming with the sharks or that show Naked and Afraid, where people PUT themselves in situations to get fucked up… and then want help, a life-line, or a free pass.
Same shit here…
I’d still say use a better judgment and get more info first… especially since it’s been 5 years…
The situation it happened was a Ryu player I was murdering about 10 matches straight and he always went for grab or solar plexus mix up… and I tried to EX Tatsu him for it and he went low instead… even though he attacked, EX Tatsu whiffed and I got punished hard for it. Yes I am aware of how to beat his other options… and cr. tech/ex kongo…
My entire point was EX Tatsu not hitting low sucks balls… that’s it.
Why is it that this thread is 26 pages long, and you MF’s only want to say something outlandish if I say something. Especially in the realms of knowing how to use the character???
Not to mention, this ENTIRE thread is about us venting about shit we don’t like or we want fixed… most of anything I posted that I don’t like, the majority of it was requested in the re-balancing requests.
It’s not one Gouken on this forum who has used EX Tatsu and the shit whiffed for whatever reason…
Gimme a fucking break.
If you or anyone else don’t like what’s being posted in this thread… then just either shut the hell up or stay the hell out. It’s that simple.
But this is the internet, and fools will be fools.
Frustfuckingstrated because for some odd reason tonight last 15 matches all have been greenbars with yellow to red lag, i justhad a fuckin great weekend with over 6k from 3870 or somethin highthrees,ppwas 28k and climbing…then capcom threw 15 + bs matches against a handful ive played recently for multi games and not hAD anyhting near what lag i having today
That’s why I rarely play ranked anymore. Every time I do, I’ll win a few matches and then get one bullshit lag grab monster to take the points away again.
So…I posted this in the new gouken thread (seemed somewhat appropriate to the conversation) but I think it fits better here:
I’m having problems lately with teching. I’m not sure if it’s mostly due to online lag or me or a combination of both. I just played a decent Ken player and most of his damage came off of just throwing me. He has this little set up where after he knocks you down, he neutral jumps point blank and then does (lk?)air tatsu which goes right behind. Then he’s mixing up his throws or lights or srk FADC. It’s really frustrating. I’m not sure if I’m teching too early or too late, but if my opponent is grab happy, I have problems. I’m also sick of blocking a jumping attack, teching, and still getting thrown. It’s nearly game breaking for me. I know the throw is coming, I tech, I get thrown. I can accept getting thrown if I was crouch teching as a guess, but if I know the throw is coming and tech and still get thrown…DAMMIT it’s annoying…it’s extra frustrating because Gouken’s options to counter the throw (ex tatsu, ultra, ex flip, jump) are SO risky that it’s better to just try to tech…and the tech system is a shitty system in my opinion.
Climaxter buddy, check the replay and play it in slow motion (specifically when you get thrown) and see if you’re actually doing tech, smashing tech or late. Sometimes I blame the lag or something else and when I see the replay is either me not doing it or doing it late… Hope it helps my friend
if i am 100% sure he will throw, i occasionally make an instant air back jump hard kick, which occasionally punish the throw animation. all other above listed options are way too unsafe… also ken’s kara throw has slighlty more start up, maybe you can smuggle in a cr.lp in that set up…
otherwise i do not know what to say than program a training dummy and train os tech cr.mk.
Apparently, there is a glitch in the game that allows Adon to block any way but downhe want’s when you try to ambig him on his wake.
I could have sworn this worked with a different timing. But this MF is literally blocking either way… he only get’s hit if he holds down forward… and he has 0 reason to do that…
This time what ever causes the un-blockables work against us.
Yea…I do use cr.mk cr tech most of the time and you know, when the match is not so laggy, this works okay…does stand tech allow mk OS?
Martinez, I will go back and watch the replays. I have a feeling I’m teching too soon most of the time but I’m trying to compensate for the general lag. I think this is the essence of why I’m not “better”. These online matches are so much about guesswork and dealing with a moving target which is “how much lag is there at this moment?” On top of that, even offline the PS3 itself can’t keep up with the game in training mode, as I’ve experienced stutters during combos against the dummy. I’ve never even played this game offline…impossible to get my friends (all married w/ midgies running around) to go out and buy a console and the game and practice for days…to be good enough to have quality matches…when most can’t even get out of their house to have a drink.
yeah men i feel you, i had the same problem before, i thought i was only me, well i was going to tell you to play offline but you gave me the answer already, what about a xbox???
no, throw will come out. i tested it a bit with 3fr mk and 5fr mp by pressing the button first and delayed lp+lk with the result of a shitty kara throw which also limits the tech window. but maybe someone else knows better…
I’ve considered it, but money is tight…trying to buy a house and be old…lol. I’d need the console, the game, a new stick, a live subscription…talking 3-400 bucks minimum.
Is that the command grab? The problem is that Capcom gave characters, that already had beastly normals and specials, command grabs…as far as I’m concerned they don’t deserve them and those matches don’t really count if I lose…lol. Seriously though, why does Fei or Yun need a command grab? Abel I get, but these other characters…just no.
I was playing some guy that wanted to kick me from his room for “not enough blocking” while playing against his Fei. When he was in my face, he would mix me up with throw, lp. xx rekka, dp FADC or tenshin and i couldn’t do shit in the corner. Cr. tech didn’t work well because of lag and i don’t like to mash kongo… Tenshin beats everything but ex tatsu or U1 iirc…
Gouken needs to be able to crouch and punish moves with light recovery. Period. It doesn’t need to lead to 400 points of damage. Just a knockdown that lets them know they can’t just spam this safe shit on the old man anymore. Kongo only goes so far. I love the move, one of the reasons I picked Gouken up, but when the players get really good Gouken is not a big threat. Just block/tech, spam lights until they get stringed out, end with some chip, or one…just one… of the lights connects and then they can do their BnB. Meanwhile, Gouken’s blockstun is so shitty…so shitty…that the safest shit he can do is spam jabs until the opponent is out of punish range. If one of his lights hit…hmmm…well, we can keep chaining them until the opponent is out of punish range. The only reasons players lose to G is because they don’t know the match up or they rely on unsafe moves to get damage. Capcom is on my shit list right now too for giving characters safe/semi-safe armor breaking moves. Maybe I’m just having a bad day…
I’ve been saying this for the longest. EX moves are powered up moves and provide much more damage or much more pursuit property than reg moves. Why would you make them safe? They’re supposed to be the OPPOSITE of safe. Sak’s ex tatsu? Ex Messiah? Ex PC? Ex up kicks are damn near a teleport. Ex tasu from Ryu/E. Ryu? Ultra if landed in the corner. Theres so much push back that you can’t punish with anything under a two frame move. Ex Rekka?
Meanwhile we get a -6 palm and -gagillion ex tatsu that doesn’t even touch the person’s body 80% of the time.