Gouken Frustration Thread, Go ahead let it out!

Well lets say they wanted ryu vs akuma to be the center piece, and everyone knows ryu character is damn shallow, and kinda stupid, so they fuck gouken up since he is more deeper and mysterious, well they accidently made a character that is cooler than their center piece and they know it , com’on wearing gi everywhere you go? “These fists are everything to me?” wtf man, ryu got no real purpose! And next, they introduced the twins and the evils, the twins look and act like douches, the evils are like whatever…

LOL… What in the hell are you talking about??

Damn straight especially with the stun this muthafucka dishes out its like giving a child a bfg.

Cocaine is one hell of a drug mate.

I kno right?

2 more weeks before we get to meet the new Gouken, I’m looking forward to it, hopefully less frustration on certain accounts :slight_smile:

Or insomnia but i was talking about the storyline

Storylinewise capcom knows exactly how they like their Gouken and that is godlike. Just look at Shin Gouken. What we get to play is them attempting to make him as blanced as possible, cause it’s obvious they know what to do to make him broken :3

Now you mentioned it…i want me one of those shin goukens for christmas

I get frustrated that I can own a lot of the motion based characters but the same people playing charge characters own me. I am missing something vs. charge characters. It just seems that their move list punishes Gouken just for being Gouken. Their charged specials are crazy fast and break armor, plus your own blockstring gives them the charge they need to come back at you. You blockstring Ryu out and he has to work back in. You blockstring Bison out and he lk scissors back in or does crusher or head stomp, getting chip and close proximity. Plus, charge characters have a lot of great normals. I know a lot of the specials have some start up but if I go in trying to jab them out of it, like as soon as they light up, I have like a 20% success rate. Then they get wise and start throwing my attempts to stop them. The worst offenders are Vega and Balrog. It’s easy to say to use Kongo against their normals but I end up losing more life the more I try to random Kongo and I’ll be amazed if people can Kongo a Vega kick or a Balrog punch on reaction when it’s not coming from across the screen. If I could have one thing more for Gouken it would be less recovery on Kongo so I could use it as a better defensive threat.

Sidenote:
I watch others safely jump in on Bison’s wake up but I’ll be damned if I can figure out how to avoid the reversal ex crusher. My best attempts are flipping over him and that does exactly boo for me. I have better success against the DeeJay and Guy wake up reversals and their wake ups are crazy good.
OS palm on Vega never seems to work when I want it to. If he flips backwards and I chase with a sweep, I eat his launcher or that flip srk he has.
Balrog…just…grrr. He doesn’t need to wake up headbutt. Just block low, wait til I push him out and then its TAP, jab jab, rush punch until I’m KO’d. Flip grab is nice but doesn’t win matches alone.

Hmmm…has anybody tried OS fireball vs a Vega teleport move? I wonder if it will hit and allow a follow up palm combo. Maybe with the new-old med-light palm. We need to come up with a name for that move since Capcom is flip flopping so much. Can we just now officially call it med palm?

I can feel you on that man. I got killed by many Bison’s today.

My only gripe about Gouken at the moment is when some online players just show you no respect at all and just keep trying to cross you up. It’s hard to teach someone you make you respect the Kongo when your inputs get reversed when the they cross up.

Delay your button press input and it will auto-correct.

What Iam said. Do the motion regular then wait a brief second and hit the button.

Alright sounds good. How were the matches yesterday btw? I saw some things I hadn’t seen before from you that were pretty cool.

For people trying to cross you up, just jump back and mp them. Or jump back fierce. Or dash Forward. Or Kongo. Or st. HK.

I like kongo’ing one or two jump-ins and then st. HP the next one to catch those smart-asses trying to empty jump into throw.

Matches were fine outside of me missing my links :stuck_out_tongue: I went into Ranked after football, which I haven’t played in forever, and lost 700 points. That was fun…

Nah this was just a guy who would repeatidly just jump in with stuff like Rog HP or Cody HK, c.lk, c.lp, then jump cross up after that is blocked. Rinse wash and repeat. The only time he landed anything is when my input got crossed up and I got a palm. He just showed no respect from the beginning and kept switching characters every 2 or 3 matches when I adapted.

I really dislike when people just swtich characters every 2 matches and use all the abusable easy stuff to win. It gets irritating after about 20 matches. You say to yourself “I shouldn’t be loosing to this”. But then again it’s your day 1 Gouken vs someone with 2k rating.

I did some ranked before Raven’s came on and almost worked my way up to 1k rating. Stopped for the game and after having to deal with some asshole in an endless match up just showed no respect.

BTW when I said make me respect Kongo, I didn’t mean to start going crazy with it :wink: I just meant that, up until that point I had been attacking you without even giving a thought to kongo. You never used it so I had no reason to fear it. You have to use it to make people respect it. If someone straight up attacks you on wake up every single time you get up, you need to use kongo to discourage that.

Also I know you saw, but use the kara throw after st.cl.mp, you saw how effective it could be.

Yeah I know what you mean by make you respect it lol. Yeah I had to remember I had it. Yeah I definitely saw the kara throw after st.cl.mp, very good stuff. What was that reset you used from EX. Palm to reset for Demon flip throw? I think it was j.mp, c.lk or something like that.