Gootecks Interview

Why would someone +rep for this comment? I wanted -rep damn it! GIVE me RED!

Viscant put it best, but to put it short…look at what happenned to CGS.

We shouldn’t have such a duty to the mainstream. Sure we want more people to play, but there’s a limit to how far out you can wander from home…and people very often get caught up in it and forget where they come from and the foundations that’ve been built, the foundations they’re supposed to live by, the foundations that makes the fighting game community so amazing.

And dissing other games does not help, it is very selfish. Whether you like a game or not does not matter, if a game is on the rise (and games like this NEED to be) and you are in a position of responsibility like Gootecks is in, then what you say should help it rise rather than trample it down…because if you commit to the latter, you’re hurting the fighting scene as a whole, and you know how it reads? I don’t give a shit about the fighting game scene outside of SFIV.

its cool. kinda thought i was feeding the troll, but i was wrong once again :stuck_out_tongue:

  1. First off, the KOF comment was a joke that he made. It wasn’t that he hates the game, or thinks it’s awful, he was just cracking a joke. I think people are reading way too much into it.

  2. Fighting games aren’t a spectator sport? Why is that? Why can that not be changed even if it isn’t? First person shooters are difficult sports to spectate, because there are multiple screens, and each person has their own screen to watch. Same for an RTS game with two screens. Both of those are spectator sports in WCG, MLG, and TV channels in Asia. Fighting games are actually perfect spectator sports. 2 players, one screen, it’s like roman gladiators. If other games can be spectator sports, why can’t fighting games?

imo sf4 was made with the spectators in mind. all of the ultras in this game have the most ridiculous pauses and faces i have ever seen. the game creators must have been thinking “during this ultra flash, the audience will clap.”

so, combo into ultra, wait for applause, big damage, win.

a shitty and obviously manufactured way to get the audience in the game. they should have left the solid game mechanics that allowed for such awesome hype moments, not a generic ultra flash that everyone has and easily allows for hype/shit talk.

People may very well be reading too much into this statement. But the fact is, you have to be careful what you say when you convey your ideas and opinions through the media. We’ve all seen how easy it is for images to get tarnished but the simple things that peolpe. The former President of the U.S. was a perfect example. Bad shit happens if you aren’t mindful of what you say and how you say it. I’m pretty sure this was said in jest or just to get a rise out of some avid kof fans. Either way, showing too much favoritism for one game won’t do any good for the scene. Having a One-Game scene isn’t much of a scene at all. It’s more of a monopoly.

Yeah and he did technically say, “I don’t know anyone who cares about KoF12” but just dropped the “anyone”. It’s just an opinion, you know its cool.

I actually read the whole thing, I don’t get the hate anymore, he isn’t saying he is god’s gift to street fighter, he doesn’t even say he plays that much. He is just pushing it for MLG and trying to get more people playing, what is so bad about SF going MLG? People can still play at the arcade or at Evo or where they normally go.

That’s a lot of sense-making for one post. I still like the idea of occasional exhibition matches, but you are correct that those are more for the existing community than growing it.

Fighters are easier to spectate, but still require you to have an understanding of the game to appreciate it beyond a handful of matches. To a non-fighting game player, there isn’t much to see after a few combos and some ultras. They aren’t going to care about how solid a players fundamentals are and fighters have a limited amount of spectator ‘flash’ to go around.

same with most sports

Gootecks really needs to back the fuck up.

If he had his way, big events such as EVO would just be glorified exhibitions between himself and the other so-called “big name” Street Fighter players.

He has a history of this, whether it’s running a single “bar fights” exhibition a couple months ago and acting like it’s the new wave of Street Fighter, to bitching about seeding at Devastation (essentially complaining that he and his list of “top seeds” weren’t going to be assured for guaranteed top-10 finishes).

In my eyes this is straight up being anti-competition. He can talk about “pro players” and how “mainstream people only want to see the top players play each other” all he wants. The one thing, the ONLY thing, that has EVER mattered in fighting games is beating ALL CHALLENGERS. No matter if they’re well-known player or some unknown. If you’re the best, you don’t duck anyone.

OF COURSE Gootecks would say some outright bullshit like “nobody cares about tournaments.”! After all, his main goal is quite obviously is to get some kind of sponsorship deal with WCG or MLG (notice he constantly name-drops both these organizations in all his interviews) for being a self-proclaimed “pro” Street Fighter player, and thus it is in his best interest try to protect his image and rep as much as possible by promoting exhibition matches over legitimate tournaments, since it looks pretty bad when some guy like Mike Watson, whom Gootecks didn’t even mention in his list of “people who should be the top seeds at Devastation” in his whine-fest with DJWHEAT goes ahead bodies him 2-0 in that very same tournament.

Gootecks has done a lot for the community? Tell me what he’s done. He’s run one, I repeat ONE event, that was invite-only. He was a website, one of the MANY that are out there devoted to Street Fighter. He promotes a world-view of Street Fighter that basically discourages anyone who isn’t a “name,” whatever the fuck that means, from coming up to challenge him and his clique of players. He isn’t trying to “promote the game” to the mainstream in all his interviews and shit, he’s trying to promote HIMSELF. He’s trying to bring Street Fighter to the mainstream for everyone? Nah nigga he wants Street Fighter to be mainstream so he can get paid, he doesn’t give a fuck about the community. So don’t propagate this “he’s done so much for all of us” bullshit.

o boi a “legitimate e-sport”. What? Like CAL/CPL that got bought out by a firm in the fucking UAE? e-sports are for fucking tools who can’t enjoy a game for what it is.

thank god someone else noticed this shit

from what ive learned it seems like gootecks only likes to play street fighter and doesnt give a shit what he plays it with. he has no knowledge about arcade sticks he just wants attention and fame. and saying who gives a shit about kof 12 just prove how dumb he is street fighter isnt the only cool fighting game out there thats why there’s variety. he seems like a professional idiot to me

The difference with sports is that you are often seeing incredible, non-linear feats of strength that more people can appreciate just by volition of being a human. In fighting game, it’s just button presses and stock animations. You have to have a greater understanding/appreciation of fighting games because the dexterity, timing, focus, and strategy are often times less apparent.

You still need to familiarize yourself with the rules of the game to appreciate what’s going on.

Execution can be the fighting game version of that. It may be a stretch to compare, say Lebron James free throw line dunk to a street fighter combo, but that wow factor is still there. Even people who don’t play fighting games can appreciate flash. For example, the Daigo parry video has over a million views. There can’t be that many third strike fans, so therefore in those million somethings of viewers, there has to be at least a couple of people who never even touched a fighting game, watched it, saw the parry, the hype, the excitement, and were entertained. So appreciation for fighting games feats doesn’t have to be necessarily as difficult to achieve for as the free throw dunk.

Interview is mind boggling.

Street Fighter is closer to Magic the Gathering than it is to the UFC or poker.

You want to see a community that fosters participation while still keeping the hype around matches between top players? Look at Magic.

Make all the jokes you want. I went to a local Magic tournament last year with 800 participants.

Somebody needs to set up something like the DCI and Friday Night Magic for fighting games.

League play is where we need to be going as a community.

But they are riding off the hype of the screaming going on after the parry. Show a guy who has never played or even understands the basic sub systems of a fighting game something like the daigo parry or whatever without audience reaction and they’ll go “lolwut” because they got no fucking clue what’s going on and see nothing to really get excited over.

Except for ultra freezes, cuz DIZZAM.

Fighting games are not a spectator “sport” and they ought to stay that way. In fact, I can’t think of any competitive video game that actually has a huge spectator following aside from Starcraft in South Korea. The rest of these e-sports communities collapsed into their own rectums long ago.

Trying to bring mass appeal to fighters is next to impossible and the Gootecks nut-riding crew needs to wake the fuck up. The game mechanics are too esoteric for any outside viewer to appreciate. Again, the physical spectacle is just not there compared to real sports.

“Pro” gaming is a fucking cancer and the only thing “professionalism” will attract are a bunch of (or even more?) sycophantic retards.

The Magic analogy works for me, despite how “unhip” the game may seem. Unfortunately we don’t have the kind of corporate support that WoTC provides.

guys can we lay off of gootecks

i mean the hate is really unwarranted because he just doesn’t know B)

It’s not that I hate the guy, it’s just that it’s hella stupid to think you can sell fighting games as a serious spectator sport.