I was lookin through your vids and saw some charecters left alive that could have been killed by devil trigger dhc into dante nonsense. But yea your team synergy is great i like your team, (tho my execution is a lil too sketchy to play dante/ammy). Also i dont know if you have seen some of Marlipie’s technology but your team could pull of this trick of his easily. Its mean for phoenix but what he does is THC and xfactors his viper while ammy an magnetos hypers are still going off to the unblockable…i could see you doin that with Trish or Dante for up/down and left right mixups while okama shuffle pins them in place
yea I know about Marlin pie doing the THC xfactor mixup. I usually sit on a shitton of meter but I would at least need Dante/Trish alive for it. But to be honest I usually feel fine with Ammy against Phoenix or if the phoenix player is bad, just lame with Dante. I’ll still be able to do such a thing in ultimate if I keep dante of Vergil in (probably even better since Vergil also has them locked down with max bubble super.)
So i assume your going to continue running trish in umvc3. Im thinking of running Trish/(Nova/Hawkeye)/Low assist other then wesker…I would run vergil but i wanna see what happens when he’s flushed out all the top players are saying he is a good first few months charecter then he will fall off. I kinda agree to some extent
Hey guys what do you think about Wesker/Dorm/Trish?
If you are gonna run this team i suggest switching wesker and trish around.
Reasons
Trish is a better point for this team because she setups unblockables for dorm/wesker
I think Trish has better matchups then wesker and Wesker/Dorm are better anchors
Dorm needs meter and trish can defintely build that
The assist that i think they should have better compliment trish as a starter compared to ur current order (or any other order for that matter)
Trish can Round harvest call dorm and let him stock his spells (i think he can get all 3 off of one round harvest)
Personally i have tried running dorm and trish on the same team and its difficult as hell to do because i dont think trish provides dorm with good assist. You would be better off droppin either trish or dorm and focus on supporting one of them as compared to supporting both of them. To answer your question i think its a GOOD team but not a GREAT team
Hmmm ok. In that case what about Trish/Wesker/Dorm? I really like that combination of Wesker and Dorm, and coupling these unblockable setups you speak I think this should be fine. Keep in mind i will be playing this team in UMvC3, not vanilla. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Trish can do ok by herself without assists right? I plan on using her peekaboo, weskers otg, and dorms black hole thing. I plan to play keepaway most of the time, but also play offensively when I see the opponent is getting frustrated and making mistakes.
Trish/Wesker/Dorm sounds good to me if you’re comfortable playing Trish and Wesker with Dark Hole instead of something like a traditional projectile cover assist.
Trish will do better by herself in Ultimate, but the lack of options off her air throws really limited her as an anchor in Vanilla. If you wound up behind in characters/life, you had to work really hard to catch up with her if they just ran away holding up+back.
Trish can play pretty well by herself but her damage output is too low generally to even do so. I agree with what kjunk said its a good team but i wouldnt expect to be winning evo with it. Tho i kinda think if your gonna play keep away that you might want to consider switching dorms assist just for the simple fact it works as an anti-air
What character would be a good replacement for Dorm?
It depends on the type of team your tryna play…you can just about put anyone in that slot but if your gonna run it the way i suggested there are several good picks
viper-offence is godlike has high damage, very balanced, sucks meter tho for a lot of moves high execution required
dante-whatever you need he’s your handy man he can do it all and is very meter sufficient
taskmaster-this is a baised opinion but he does great chip great damage has good normals good assist he’s a great support charecter…you could even take advantage of his unblockable with trish’s round harvest
storm-her runaway is among the best if not the best in the game she does everything well (except for zoning imo). She is the lesser magneto but she can dhc off anything and hit from anywhere with hailstorm. She also gives the team dhc glitch ability as well
**doom-**he’s lookin really strong in ultimate and is really strong in this game since you will likely be puttin your oppenent into corners with trish if you want great damage in the corner go with doom. He’s also a good zoner and all three of his assist are good another great support charecter
ammy-really good all-around good dhc glitch starter/ender pretty much like storm for the most part except ammy can zone better imo. also has really good instant overheads and pretty good normals another really good balanced charecter
**zero-**this guy is a monster can setup his own unblockables good zoning rushdown and mixup has insane priority builds good meter deals good damage only flaw is his low vitality. his level 3 is really good beats out pretty much anything
magneto-Magneto is pretty much the best pressure zoner with the fastest beam in the game, does good damage builds good meter has good priority and movement, one of the best level 3’s in the game…if you run him look up rdk runs a team of trish mag wesker
These are just some really good charecters all around and pretty much all of them are lookin solid heading into ultimate. The ones in bold are likely your top tiers for next game and are high tier in this game already. If i had to pick go with dante/doom/zero. There bnb build so much meter and dish so much damage that you will have positive meter gains and easy tod’s. Plus they are looking really solid in the next installment. I see a scenario like this:
Land trish bnb do round harvest
tag dante/doom/zero and do unblockable
and you have a dead charecter with little effort
If you use dante FC jago runs a team of wesker/dante/trish and is a consistent top 8 placer in tourny so you could steal his tech. There are other good charecters but these are among the best options. Since your doin a keepaway team i recomment doom his missiles and plasma beam assist will aid trish the best. For overall optimal synergy i recommand the plasma beam because it aids wesker if you ever have him on point
Im not mentioning anyone from ultimate yet because i havent played the game and im not gonna tell u to run someone i know nothing about. You can run dorm if you like but these guys are the winners of vanilla and the bold ones are likely to be the most ran in ultimate
New team i’ve been trying out… Viper/Trish/Dante. Unblockable setups and ToDs all day.
I really like this team only thing is i think trish should probably be on point…other then that this is a top tier team!!!
Yep this is my team 
But with Trish on point. If you’re of the school of thought that Viper is one of the strongest characters in the game, think of Trish as a little Viper extension.
Because of Round Harvest unblockable combos, any combo with Trish leads to a Viper unblockable combo and then sets Viper up where she loves to be - in the corner ready to unblockable the next person coming in.
At worst if Trish fails, Viper still comes in with a lot of meter. It’s a lot of fun.
I’m gona switch from Chris/Trish/Ammy to Trish/Viper/Ammy. I think it’s just a better team in general, and structuring a team around Trish seems to bring more to the table than one structured around Chris. My question though is what assist do you think Trish should have for this team for the times when she isn’t being run on point?
I like Trish/Viper/Ammy quite a bit too. Viper can do disgusting mix-ups/unblockables using Ammy’s Cold Star (just watch some MarlinPie vids). And Cold Star makes Round Harvest unblockables easy.
Peekaboo is Trish’s strongest assist overall. Vanilla Viper was able to use Low Voltage for some nice combo extensions, but that still needs to be tested in Ultimate.
Ammy doesn’t really benefit from Peekaboo much since it often overlaps with her paper moves. She benefits slightly from Low Voltage to help her get in.
I’d say probably Peekaboo. If Trish isn’t up front, you’re either ahead or still even, and Peekaboo shines when you’re forcing them to come to you through Seismo spam or Paper/Sword keepaway.
Trish/Viper are total pals imo, few characters can abuse Round Harvest the way Viper can…
Just as a tip, any time I’m theory-crafting a new team comp for Trish I always ask myself:
A) How well can the secondary character utilize Round Harvest unblockables? (i.e. do they have a way to make their own unblockable a la Viper/Felicia/MODOK, or do they need an assist? If an ublockable is out of the question, do they at least have good high/low mixups?)
B) How well do the other two characters capitalize on Peekaboo resets? Or in the case of Low Voltage does the other character/s have good left/right mixups? (Hopscotch you say? I wouldn’t know, I never use that assist tbh)
C) Can their assists provide utility and/or combo extensions that are useful to Trish on point? (like Beams for getting in, OTG’s, pressure assists, wall/ground bounces, etc.)
B) and C) are pretty generic questions you can apply to any team choice regarding assist usefulness, but A) is arguably the most important, Round Harvest is the backbone of Trish’s contribution to team chemistry, and allows her to enable other characters to score big damage and safe tags all over the place…
If I can answer yes to at least 2 of the 3 questions then it’s a pretty good sign.
RDK’s team is a good example of this (I’m also biased because it’s the same team I play). Mags and Wesker abuse Peekaboo like a boss, and who doesn’t love DISRUPTAH? Wesker brings the unblockables and OTGs as well as being a battery, hell this team can even DHC glitch all over the place…
Good points! Another good question to ask re: the Round Harvest unblockables is : can the character you’re setting up can combo off situations where the person tries to escape?
One usual escape would be for the person to raw tag in another character into getting hit by the Round Harvest.
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[]Viper can follow them up for an air combo and then do an EX Burn Kick to bring them back down for more combo
[]Dante can just do a j.:s: as the Round Harvest ends
[*]RDK super jumps with Magneto and times a Hypergrav to hit as the Round Harvest ends, which pulls them back down into more combo
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Another escape would be if they do a crossover counter, or crossover counter into super. If the person CC’s nto Sentinel and then cancels it into Hard Drive, how well can your second character handle that? Viper can soak the hits with her Focus Attack and then maybe punsh.
And I agree, RDK’s team was vanilla gold. I played around with Trish/Wesker/Akuma to similar effect, though Akuma had trouble answering some of those questions the same way Magneto did.
Trish basically should have a team built around her, but that’s not a limitation like most people automatically think, it just means you can’t just throw her into any team and get that 110% from her you would if you made a team around her.
Besides, even if she gets bodied, a WELL BALANCED team wont fall apart even if it’s designed around her, I mean, what’s bad about being “stuck” with Wesker/Mags, Viper/Doom, and the like? (besides being -1 character, durr)
As far as assists, she benefits most from Beams/OTG’s for obvious reasons, and more often than not a High/Low assist is a good idea too, not only because it makes landing a combo with Trish easier, but it guarantees you can create an unblockable off of Round Harvest no matter who your third character is…
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I’ve changed things around to Trish/Wesker/Magneto, do you think this would be good?
That’s true, I like the idea. Technically, even though Viper is really suited to be on point, the Round Harvest -> FA unblockable instantly makes Trish more dangerous on point. Viper has a better air throw game though. I just happened to have that team in that order because my previous team I was trying out was Viper/Mag/Dante. All top tier characters, Magneto is overall better than Trish and his EM disruptor assist is really good for Viper’s keep away and combo extensions, but IMO I find Trish to be a lot more synergic than Mags with Viper and Dante. Trish really is underestimated, she’s not as good as the top tiers, but she’s a big team player!
The only thing about running Viper second is that she doesn’t have any safe hypers to DHC into. But with Trish’s Round Harvest, you could easily get in a safe raw tag, so atleast that’s covered. The other thing is if Trish for some reason happens to get blown up in the beginning, then Viper is forced to face a 50/50 mixup from Wolverine or Dante, or anyone that has setups for incoming characters. In the worst case scenario, you lose your first two characters without even being able to play as the second character. In the end it depends on who you want to base the team around, IMO Trish/Viper/Dante is more based around Trish, while Viper/Trish/Dante is based around Viper. I think both characters can make equally good use of each other’s (plus Dante’s) assists, but who I want to put on point for me would depend on the matchup. If it’s Zero I have to face, I would probably put Trish on point, but if i’m going up against Dante, i’ll probably keep Viper on point.