Good partners for Dormammu?

[charlie88]

You will learn to charge the right one. It will become second nature. I play dorm then I drop him then I play him again. We have an on again off again relationship lol

[Azarius]

Haha I hear you. I would like to still figure out some kind of application for 3C. Idk just think since nobody uses it, there is some tech that we are missing out on…

[charlie88]

Yea no one uses it unless its for combo videos but for the most part there could be some tech with it. I will check later to see if the holding the opponent in place after a snap theory works. If so I could come up with some sick entry mix-ups.

[Azarius]

Yea no one uses it unless its for combo videos but for the most part there could be some tech with it. I will check later to see if the holding the opponent in place after a snap theory works. If so I could come up with some sick entry mix-ups.

That would be so crazy! Going into the lab tonight for sure

[serpentaurus]

Can somebody clarify 0D3C details?

• Do it last after of a snapback? after of a DHC? after of hypers that take the character out of the ground (okami shuffle, mighty tornado, human rocket, inferno, etc)
• startup, active frames
• raging demon and other command grabs work on the grounded character even if the player is pressing up?

All i know is it hits low and take out the ability to jump. Would test it myself but my xbox is far away >_>

I definitely see some use with j.S followed by s.M (s.M gets you grounded), so maybe a cancel from s.M to 0D3C to stalking flare to Mighty punish DHC… (…) or j.S, s.M + lockdown assist/mighty spark, 0D3C cancel, dashforward and continue combo, etc etc…

[Karsticles]

Can somebody clarify 0D3C details?

• Do it last after of a snapback? after of a DHC? after of hypers that take the character out of the ground (okami shuffle, mighty tornado, human rocket, inferno, etc)

Probably “yes” in all cases.

• startup, active frames

Check the main thread.

• raging demon and other command grabs work on the grounded character even if the player is pressing up?

Yes.

[Azarius]

Just tested

Have a Trish, Nova, Dorm team that has been working wonders for me and I just thought of a dirty setup that may work using 3 Creators. Unfortunately I am at work and cannot test this until I get home, but here it is

-Start Dorm and stock up 3 creators
-Either tag in or DHC Trish in using round harvest
-Raw tag in Dorm as the opponent will still be blocking the round harvest
-Release the 3 Creators and have them stuck on the ground and still dealing with round harvest!

If that works that can lead to some nasty setups/unblockables

Well it does work. And since 3Cs does hit low, it makes the opponent get hit by the last few hits of round harvest so you can follow up into a full, free combo. May not be practical but thought it was cool

[Spartan_Throne]

raging demon and other command grabs work on the grounded character even if the player is pressing up?

Yes.

Nope. Whiffs in their face.

[Karsticles]

Nope. Whiffs in their face.

Really? There’ve been so many reports of people who use the setup for Raging Demon.

[Spartan_Throne]

Really? There’ve been so many reports of people who use the setup for Raging Demon.

Nahh none of them work. When you’re in the 3C if you hold up, to the best of my knowledge and experimentation, you enter a constant state of pre-jump frames as long as you’re holding up, thus can be hit low but not grabbed. I made a pretty comprehensive post about 3C a while ago in the main tier thread to clarify some of the misconceptions about it, I’ll see if I can find it for the 3C thread.

Edit:

Okay just a copy and paste from an old post which has some info which people might still be unsure/don’t know about 3C:

Once hit by 3C you cannot use teleports which leave you in the air, but you can use ones which leave you grounded. You cannot fly whilst grounded, but if you are left in the air while 3C is still active on you (ie after a failed air series or a move of your own which puts you into the air and allows you to fly after), you can enter flight or use any teleport you want as well as all of your normal air mobility options.

You cannot command grab or normal throw someone hit by 3C when they hold up. My best deduction is that 3C leaves them in a state where you’re able to enter your prejump frames by holding up and it just maintains that state of prejump until the 3C runs out or you stop holding up.

Spencer can Zip into the air. Morrigan can DP xx Fly. Viper can BK feint. Akuma can DP xx Hyper and so on with other characters.

3C remains active on people after they are snapped or hard tagged, but to snap them you’d perhaps have to use something like throw > OTG + Spencer Slant Shot, 3C xx Chaotic Flame and link a snap after, which is by no means a good use of resources in most cases. Even after very short combos you cannot do 3C xx Chaotic Flame, as 3C doesn’t have enough hitstun by that point. Slant Shot > 3C xx XF > Snap does work, but again it’s not something you’re going to use in any serious situation instead of outright killing with the XF.

Specifics:
1 hit / 0 damage / 0 meter gain.
15 frames of startup / No active frames listed / 36 frames of recovery.
-21 on hit.
-23 on block.

[charlie88]

Hey I’ve been playing a team of Haggar/Dorm/Frank and its been working well synergy is top notch in my opinion. You get touch of death combos/ frank level up options/great meter building/ entry setups/ command grab setups/unblockables/ and loads of other ish. The only thing is without dorm this team loses to zoning (and still loses to certain characters).

Just want you guys opinion about the team?

[Karsticles]

Hey I’ve been playing a team of Haggar/Dorm/Frank and its been working well synergy is top notch in my opinion. You get touch of death combos/ frank level up options/great meter building/ entry setups/ command grab setups/unblockables/ and loads of other ish. The only thing is without dorm this team loses to zoning (and still loses to certain characters).

Just want you guys opinion about the team?

Someone did this with Frank on point, and it was pretty powerful. Abuse Dark Hole + camera to snatch people out of the air.

Nahh none of them work. When you’re in the 3C if you hold up, to the best of my knowledge and experimentation, you enter a constant state of pre-jump frames as long as you’re holding up, thus can be hit low but not grabbed. I made a pretty comprehensive post about 3C a while ago in the main tier thread to clarify some of the misconceptions about it, I’ll see if I can find it for the 3C thread.

Edit:

Good stuff. I bookmarked your post and will update the main thread with the info. Credit to you, of course.

[superwii64cube]

Hey does anyone have some stuff that can be possible with dorm with arthur daggers tech?

[Onslaught_X]

Try my team and see how it works out for you.

[TheCape]

What do you guys think about this team?

Captain America (Charging Star) / Dormammu (Dark Hole) / Hawkeye (Greyhound)

It works pretty solid for me from what I can see. Dark Hole allows Captain America some defense when zoning with Sheild Slash and Greyhound support and also allows him to get full combos off throws (nearing 600k for one meter so far). The soft knockdown on Charging Star can be used with Flame Carpet late in combos in order to give Dormammu the change to relaunch again, also gives him some breathing room. Greyhound is fast and allows both characters room to work and get in if necessary, but mostly Cap throwing his sheild and occassionally getting support from Dorm or Dorm using Liberation to create walls of shit being supported by Greyhound or Cap’s Charging Star. Super Jump heights are covered by Dorm and by Cap through the intelligent use of projectiles.

Any thoughts?

[NKZero]

Hey guys I’m trying to run a new team here, keeping Skrull and Dormammu but replacing Doom with Akuma (I’m just not good enough with Doom).

This is the team order in mind but I’m open to all suggestions: Skrull (Stone Smite), Dormammu (Dark Hole), Akuma (Tatsu).

Firstly, I know all three characters are deadly in level 3 XF as an anchor so there is a lot of versatility here. Dormammu I feel needs meter and Skrull doesn’t as much (despite what people may think). Skrull can try to build meter and use dirty command grab/st L set-ups of Dark Hole assist and build meter without using it via. resets. Skrull isn’t very good defensively either so Tatsu works as a defensive assist and then once I have breathing room I have all the Skrull set-ups in open space. From what I’ve heard and read in the forums, Dormammu isn’t too strong on point so I decided on Skrull instead. Maybe I could switch around Akuma and Skrull but Skrull’s assists suck ass so I’d rather keep him on point.

The Akuma-Dormammu team synergy is very intruiging. Dark Hole also works wonders for Akuma because he has good 50/50 mix-ups. Akuma’s assist also helps Dormammu for keep away if need be or teleport set-ups. I don’t really need to extend combos among my team because each character has sufficient OTG moves to continue combos alone. I’m looking for assists that will help me with ‘ghetto’ resets or difficult set-ups in general.

Anyways what do you guys think? Is this a legit team? Is the order correct? The assists?

Thank you in advance.

[discovigilante]

So ok, how are Dormammu and Vergil together? Rapid Slash seems like a really really really good assist for Dorm, but I feel like they’d be fighting each other for meter and I’m not sure what assist goes best with them. I was thinking Dorm/someone/Vergil.

[triplexraider]

So ok, how are Dormammu and Vergil together? Rapid Slash seems like a really really really good assist for Dorm, but I feel like they’d be fighting each other for meter and I’m not sure what assist goes best with them. I was thinking Dorm/someone/Vergil.

Although it isn’t the best assist for Dorm, it’s decent for zoning. You can try Dorm/(Beam Assist)/Vergil. Once your 2nd character comes in, DHC in Vergil with Spiral Swords and you get Vergil + Beam. So, Dorm/Magneto/Vergil?

[TimTim]

Anyone got any fun teams with dorm. The team isn’t full of top tiers but the combo potential is great and it has some fun setups?

[discovigilante]

Although it isn’t the best assist for Dorm, it’s decent for zoning. You can try Dorm/(Beam Assist)/Vergil. Once your 2nd character comes in, DHC in Vergil with Spiral Swords and you get Vergil + Beam. So, Dorm/Magneto/Vergil?

Hmm, not a huge Magneto fan but I’m having trouble thinking of a beam character with better synergy than him. Maybe Hawkeye (arrows, not beam I know), especially Gimlet DHC Spiral Swords, teleport Helm Breaker/S works.

Also I should have mentioned Rapid Slash is an amazing combo assist for Dorm, at least from what I’ve tried so far.