"Get Ready...Survive!" The New Garou: Mark of the Wolves Thread

[Alternate275]

Yeah but if everyone plays gato, kevin or marco, it would be too boring…i like challenges, I hate playing easy characters

Right. Let’s recap on the discussion =/

oh you got me wrong, I said i hate playing easy characters but I wasnt talking about gato, marco or kevin. I was talking about general fighting games.

I was saying that I wouldnt like to play characters that everyone plays or that are too used on tourneys, thats all

:u:
One can’t help but assume a common assumption

[Flik]

They’re not easy. Easy and solid characters are Jenet, Terry and maybe J-hoon.

Maybe it’s just me, but I think that characters that have to rely on their feint cancels are kind of tricky. The reason why I consider Kevin, Gato and Grant pretty easy to pick is the fact that the rely more on their supers or break moves. B. Jenet doesn’t need her feints, but Terry does and KJH is a lot more threatening if you can master his feints. So personally I think those two are pretty hard to master.

[Alternate275]

Played a lot of Freeman mirror matches against Omerta =P
Gonna upload some vids soon. He’s also pretty well mannered, good man =3

[Diveman]

One can’t help but assume a common assumption

right, sorry about that

[Alternate275]

right, sorry about that

Apology accepted =P
I’m sure a lot of us are guilty of being misunderstood every now and then =P

Maybe it’s just me, but I think that characters that have to rely on their feint cancels are kind of tricky. The reason why I consider Kevin, Gato and Grant pretty easy to pick is the fact that the rely more on their supers or break moves. B. Jenet doesn’t need her feints, but Terry does and KJH is a lot more threatening if you can master his feints. So personally I think those two are pretty hard to master.

Well there’s some credit to your statement, so you wouldn’t be too far off =P

[Nocturnal]

More new Garou japanese tournament footage posted here:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5257766&postcount=286

More on the way here soon.

[Flik]

Great vids Nocturnal! Finally some players I recognize, Koba, Yuki and so on. I haven’t enjoyed the TRF vids so these new ones goes perfect with my morning coffee,

thx :tup:

Edit: Great tourney but what the hell was up with the playing order? That Freeman player called Rice Refill Millimeter was godlike, but he only played one game? I didn’t get anything. Oh well…

Also, is it also Hoku that can perform double air attacks during a short jump? I think his string is B - A or maybe A - B but usually with characters that have those (practically everyone, Gato, Hotaru, the Kims) they are only available during normal jumps.

[System_1]

Obviously not all matches were recorded/uploaded. And i quees there were some matches from loosers bracket.

[_hAoLIn]

Edit: Great tourney but what the hell was up with the playing order? That Freeman player called Rice Refill Millimeter was godlike, but he only played one game? I didn’t get anything. Oh well…

bizarre name + bizarre character + a raping playstyle = hilarious outcome. The Freeman was definitely on point. It’d be great to see more of his matches. I’d also want to note that the unnamed Hoku player was pretty nice as well.

[Omerta]

Also, is it also Hoku that can perform double air attacks during a short jump? I think his string is B - A or maybe A - B but usually with characters that have those (practically everyone, Gato, Hotaru, the Kims) they are only available during normal jumps.

Hoku, if I’m not mistaken, is the only character who can link two air normals from a short hop. You do it with hop :d: :snkc: -> :snkb:

I haven’t had a chance to watch all the matches, but I did watch the Freeman set. It was really good, and it makes me feel a little bit better about my crappy execution when someone as good as him was screwing up his stand A xx super as much as I usually do. He looks like a really strong player and I hope he mains Freeman some more in future tournies.

Good shit Noc :tup:

[Nocturnal]

Great vids Nocturnal! Finally some players I recognize, Koba, Yuki and so on. I haven’t enjoyed the TRF vids so these new ones goes perfect with my morning coffee,

thx :tup:

Edit: Great tourney but what the hell was up with the playing order? That Freeman player called Rice Refill Millimeter was godlike, but he only played one game? I didn’t get anything. Oh well…

Also, is it also Hoku that can perform double air attacks during a short jump? I think his string is B - A or maybe A - B but usually with characters that have those (practically everyone, Gato, Hotaru, the Kims) they are only available during normal jumps.

I think that Freeman player switch characters to either Hotaru/Hoku/Kevin since some names weren’t mentioned. I had figure out who was playing by color pretty much. Though that didn’t help out as some players tend to switch their colors at times.

Omerta already answered your Hoku question, make sure you hold down as you small jump to make it easier. A lot of the translation are probably off also on some of the names I got. Though I’m sure some of the names are meant as jokes or handles.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

I’m not really sure where to ask this, but er sometime back on these forums someone posted some screen shots about what was supposedly Garou 2. I’ve haven’t heard anything new about a possible Garou 2 since then, so did they turn out to be fake?

[Xorcist]

That was me (most likely in this post), people told me they were fakes (I think I still have the screenshots saved somewhere if you’d like to see them). As we all known though, SNK supposedly had a good portion of Garou II done right before they went bankrupt. My impression given the current state of things is, after KoF XII comes out… and pending it’s success, we could finally see a Garou II using the same technology. But at the moment all we can do is cross our fingers.

Edit: To keep this post on topic, where is everyone playing online these days? 2D fighter? MAME w/ Kaillera? GGPO? I’d like to get back into the scene.

[Nocturnal]

That was me (most likely in this post), people told me they were fakes (I think I still have the screenshots saved somewhere if you’d like to see them). As we all known though, SNK supposedly had a good portion of Garou II done right before they went bankrupt. My impression given the current state of things is, after KoF XII comes out… and pending it’s success, we could finally see a Garou II using the same technology. But at the moment all we can do is cross our fingers.

Edit: To keep this post on topic, where is everyone playing online these days? 2D fighter? MAME w/ Kaillera? GGPO? I’d like to get back into the scene.

Both GGPO and 2DF have a lot of players online a lot of the time.

[Alternate275]

Do people still use MAME w/Kaillera??? =O

I’d probably use MAME just for Killer Instinct and maybe Mortal Kombat.

[Nocturnal]

Do people still use MAME w/Kaillera??? =O

I’d probably use MAME just for Killer Instinct and maybe Mortal Kombat.

Some people still use it for p2p at times but overall everyone prefers nFBA for online gaming now.

[chopa]

2df also perhaps (dunno no one likes Mac.)

[Chipp_Zanuff_v5]

This is gonna sound hella stupid, but can someone please tell me how to Guard cancel? I cant do it for the life of me and ive been struggling to do one ever since i started -_-

[Hatred_Edge]

This is gonna sound hella stupid, but can someone please tell me how to Guard cancel? I cant do it for the life of me and ive been struggling to do one ever since i started -_-

Guard Cancel (GC) - As you JD do a motion for a special or super move to GC out of a JD stance. You’ll notice how when you JD your character goes into a stance. It almost looks like hes ready to attack right after the stance which is where GC’s come in.This can be a bit tricky but there are shortcuts to doing them with no problem. Easiest way to learn them is try GCing out of fireballs at first. If you do it right you should see the “Guard Cancel” words appear in red letters on the screen (PS2 version does not have this for some dumb reason). GC’s help out in certain situations where you cannot counter certain moves. Once you learn GC’s you can change a match around very quickly, if you catch opponents off guard. Especially agains’t fireball happy opponents you can Guard Cancel back at them with your own fireball, special or super. There are 2 methods for doing GC’s:

1. Right when you JD do the motion for a special or super quickly. Theres a small window for doing the GC usually the window ends after the blue spark animation is done.

2. Since the Garou engine stores motions for specials, supers and charges, it helps makes GC’s easier. For example with Rock if you do his fireball motion then wait about a second or walk foward than hit /. The fireball still comes out because the motion stays stored for a short amount of time, with that you can use it for GC shortcuts. Think of it as an option select deal, before JDing do the motion for a fireball . Then hit to JD right after that motion then all you do next is hit any punch button /. This makes the fireball special come out as a GCed move, so you see why this shortcut helps out. Same can be done with super moves as well, do the motion X2/360/720/etc, then press to JD. Then hit whatever button it needs to activate the super move to GC it. Once you learn this method of doing GC’s it becomes easier doing them consistant. These links explains more about advanced motion storing:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=1095
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=1108

Here you go.

[Tea]

This is gonna sound hella stupid, but can someone please tell me how to Guard cancel? I cant do it for the life of me and ive been struggling to do one ever since i started -_-

When I do it… I like to think of the motion (dp,qcf,270,etc…) as the block motion. Like… you have to do that motion in order to block.
Then as soon as you block, press the attack button you want.

TOP attacks and qcb moves are the easiest. For motions that go forward, add a ‘back’ or ‘down-back’ motion right afterward. TOP attacks don’t need the motion, so just JD, then hit C+D.

Do this ‘block motion’ at the right timing for a JD.