What is the proper timing on FADC’ing hands? I can’t seem to do it…
you gotta hit it as soon as the animation for the hands comes out i think… thats how i do it anyways. ( not that i can do it concistantly yet:tdown: )
im tryna learn this combo ofcourse now but im an average player at best tbf :-/, im showing the progression of it all on my youtube channel (dedicated to gen obvz) using the piano tech that AutoMattock showed in his video.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRakeClown - could use advise as always from anyone. Looks like its just gonna take a lot of practise lolz. and cheers to those who post info on this stuff for average gens like myself :tup:
i cant piano. im doing the piano perfectly but its not coming out. i’ll just try the slide method. my fingers run smoothly but i dk, maybe im not linking the mk properly.
You gotta piano really fast.
For me I’m trying to do FADC after hands: pianoing is harder to get hands but easier to get FADC after, but slide is easier to do but harder to do FADC after…
you don’t want to piano too fast though, trust me i know… i was there for about 2 hours in training mode going semi insane. as soon as muscel memory takes over your hand actions and imputs the timing comes very shortly after (just through trial and error really)
you’re right about the fadc using the piano tech aswell, again - as soon as muscel memory takes over it becomes nowhere near as complex as when you first try it.
Long post coming, be aware
Hello Guys,
I’m playing with Gen for some time, and I was having problems with the MK>Hands thing, especially with the piano, because I was always getting EX-Hands, which we know that suck. Also, I NEVER (ever) was able to FADC using piano.
After some pratice and advice from some friends, I came with a method that doesn’t need the piano, but you NEED to start the combo with s.MP.
Here’s the deal:
You start witn s.MP, then do HP, MP, LP+MK, HP
This will result in MP-MK-Hands, You don’t need to piano the buttons, just press one after another in a smooth way. After doing this for a while on practice you’ll be able to do the 1st part of the combo.
Now for the follow-up, you just input LP, MP HP, LP+MK, HP
this will result on the second MK-Hands. Don’t press the buttons too fast or too early, or you’ll get EX-Hands or the hands will keep and you will be unable to hit MK.
For FADC, just press MP+MK right after HP. It will easily cancel the hands into FA.
So the sequence is:
MP, HP, MP, LP+MK, HP, LP, MP, HP, LP+MK, HP - FADC - and start all over again.
You can do the inputs in any sequence, but I felt that this way worked better to me.
I made a small video to show how to do this technique, but the quality isn’t the best. If you guys want, I can record this on a better quality explaining better.
here’s the video link: [media=youtube]Ya0h9R5RKlA[/media]
hope you Gen players enjoy it 
I posted that method in the previous page of the thread. The difference is that i use mp,mp,mp instead mp,hp,mp… its the same.
With this method i do mp,mkhands,mkhands, cancel, mp,mkhands, mkhands easily BUT the biggest problem is that the Mk+hands alone is the best gen poke, and you must do with piano and no with this buffer method.
If i use mkhands in combat i get a lot of ex hands, but is a must in combats versus good players.
EDIT: i forgot that… in the second mkhands of your video i use mp,mp,mp too so i always use the same combination of buttons.
EDIT2:
More clear:
mp------------land a mp
mp------------ buffer in the first mp animation (3punches left for hands)
mp------------ buffer (2 puches left for hands)
mk+lp-------- land a mk that combo with first mp, lp is for buffer (1 punch left for hands)
hp------------ hands
wait a bit
mp----------- buffer, 4 punches left
mp----------- buffer, 3 punches left
mp----------- buffer, 2 punches left
mk+lp------- mk link with the last hands, and lp is for buffer, 1 punch left
hp----------- hands and you finished the combo!!
MK Hands with buffering isn’t actually difficult, even with FADC. But getting insta-hands to come out of MK+LP is the hardest part imo, at least for the fingers. Especially because like above poster says, it is a great poke and is vital for winning(how often can you close in with a MP to start the MK Hands chain?)
Ive been doing mk hands for a while now, its getting easier and easier, but I switched inputs, remember that it can be whatever punches u like 
as long as it ends on HP. first I was using (i was told to do it like this) lp,mp,hp,mp/lp(whatever worked the best),hp but I always got out EX. but I tried an amount of different inputs, and I ended up with lp,mp,lp,mp,hp. never get ex out, my best tips is to find the input that suits ur fingers best and the exercises here seem useful aswell. FADC isnt to hard either, but I still have problems continuing the combo afterwords xD ill just have to practice more.
i mostly use the slide method but i think if i learn the piano method it would make me faster and a better gen thanks again for the exercises
No problem
Just to clearify if my method actually is possible, because I am not seeing results…the mk and hands do come out, but registrer as 2 seperate hits ( hands is 4 hit combo instead of 5 or more).
s.mk + lp followed by mp > PPP (one button) > 2x hp
Am I just doing it too slow? I feel as if I am actually doing it, but the pieces just wont connect.
Edit: just tried it on Balrog and my second mk never hits it is always out of reach
if sMk dont combo with hands, you need a lot of extra speed pushing the punches 
so basically I just need to keep working on my speed and its fine, ok great, im the meantime I use dashes in between them lol xD
If you are a bit slow, you only see the mk, because you finish the hands when mk is in the recovery state (after the link window). So you are more slow than that because you do the hands AFTER the recovery state of the mk.
I would say, dont handicap yourself with that one button stuff. Learn to piano those three.
How does that handicap me? This is my first fighting game and ive been doing it since I got it (April), There is no scene here whatsoever so I will definately never enter a tournament.
Thanks for replying everyone ^^
I must be weird… I can connect two mk hands on a pad. I mapped LT to MK and and slide my thumb across LP and MP twice and then HP at the end:
LT, X, Y, X, Y, RB, LT, X, Y, X, Y, RB
I also saw some black dude on Youtube that had mapped LT to HP for some reason and made everything even more difficult, yet somehow mangages to do the full combo perfectly everytime:
B, Y, X, Y, Y, LT, B, Y, X, Y, Y, LT
It must be because of his negro magic.
Anyway, the timing was actually quite a bitch… but it seems to be getting easier. The input recognition on this game is so lenient that sometimes it ends with LP, MP, MP+HP… or LP, MP+HP, MP. I must admit, it makes switching to crane a bit inconistent too because the triggers aren’t sensitive enough and I have to press all three at once (it’d be nice if I just simply had to have three kicks held). This also makes doing Gen’s kick ultra impossible, which is quite unfortunate. Oh well, I can’t afford a stick right now so I’m doing what I can. I’ve been connecting a lot more HP hands today though, so now I just gotta work on FADC’ing out of it. Do I put in MP+MK at the same time as HP or directly after it?
trust me learning hitting the 3 buttons separate will make you faster and make your execution better if you can crane low kick 3 punch then super. if you can do that regular it will make you lot faster then hitting one button. plus all i really do is play online and i do a lot better now then just hitting one button to switch. like right now i can do mk into hands with the slide method but i want to learn the piano method because 1 it will help execution with the 5 inputs and 2nd it will make me a lot faster with said inputs, plus learning with piano will help my e Honda
i tryed the slide method yesterday… and man… its really easy to get mk hands out fast. It took me about 20 mins to get it down to a comfortable timming and i dont get EX anymore… ony time i get EX is when i tryed to FADC.
I had to remap the mk button… now its in the top row. so i slide right (mk) to left and back. 
… i had to remap other buttons to, just getting use the new locations.
using the slide method… im having some issue’s in timming the mk after s.mp… i was able to sorta piano hp hands after s.mp, but sinse i started sliding… its seems abit harder… any suggestions?