Are there any of these that don’t have extremely tight timing? Tbh i only tried the viper backthrow one so far and i couldn’t get it consistent, so I figure the ones you whiff normals on to setup would be easier but i’ll have to test it out.
Yun, Yang, Ibuki, Guy, Seth and Deejay are pretty lenient. easy to do. the back throw is hard, also after jyakoha you can unblockable like half the cast but its pretty difficult
i’m just trying to get all the normal unblockables since they are a bit more reliable and easier to pull off
no sweat bro.
hey so i was thinking someone with enough time should remake the match up thread
heres why. i think gen has turned into a semi vortex character. which is really good considering the state of the current meta game. in addition to that a lot of the character specific stuff has changed. i fel like playing gen without utilizing all his set ups would be just like playing akuma without his vortex
the new match thread should include the best combo options to keep the mix up going. for instance, some characters get hit by bnb into TC2 HK giekro. while others you can hit with cr.jab, cr.lk, stand fierce HK giekro. same thing with the punish combos. sometimes its better to go with close mp, TC2 HK DP, others you just go with close mp, hpxxHK dp, and others still, the best option is just close fierce into dp
its a lot to try and remember. and on top of that, the post knockdown mix up changes from character to character. do you go with whiff Hk dp into mantis safe jump? maybe lp crane roll into mantis empty jump low. etc,…are they in the corner or mid screen?
and that doesnt even touch all the oga stuff or various OSes you could include.
it would be great to have one consolidated area with an updated front page to keep track of everything.
i could start it myself, but theres no way im going to be able to work on it as much as i would need to. thoughts…?
I’d help but I wonder if people will want to have their secret techs on front page.
For instance, Gen players would get less from their 50-50 cross/fake cross setups if people actually knew they should try to block it as fake cross first. =P
front page wants videos. just make it all text. besides most of gens legit stuff has enough options for it to still work anyway. like a different normal or stance usually produces different results
Don’t worry, nobody reads the forum front page unless you say you dont agree with Jwong, and then there will be a crowd
Might it possibly be an idea that a few of us could compile a sort of handbook, similar to the Ibuki guidebook by Izuna or the Makoto guidebook? A centralized guide that covers Frame Data, matchup guides, setups and so on.
I have thought of that, but the amount of time it consumes to make such is not funny at all
Hey guys, first time poster long time lurker here. I had a question regarding Gens safe jump set-up vs Cammy that is on CantoEspers spreadsheet. It states that after a Forward Throw, you’re supposed to do S.HK(Crane) + jump hp(Mantis). I can’t get it to work at all for some odd reason. I can just Cannon Spike out of it all day. I just wanted to know if it is still a valid safe jump option or if it has been changed or if there’s a better option now.
Here’s a link to the spreadsheet: http://goo.gl/w1T83
Thanks in advanced for any help regarding my question.
Cammy wakes up a frame later than the rest of the cast (like blanka) I dont know about that set up but I normally use the following
Forward throw, crane dash, crane cMP **mantis jump **MK
Forward throw, mantis dash, standing light kick, jump medium kick
Awesome, thanks for the help man, I really appreciate it. I also figured out that: Forward Throw, dash, cr.mp, jump mk works as well.
if you did that frame perfect it will wiff, but ± 1 frame I guess its ok
Indeed. It definitely is a lot of work however, with a couple of us if we’re fairly active and dedicated it shouldn’t be too much trouble. This all depends on if we, the Gen players, would want this though.
ok, why wont we want it?
I’d be willing to donate to make this Gen Bible happen. I’m sure a lot of other people from the Gen community would too. 
I would love to contribute to that book, but I still feel that the complete set of tools Gen has have not been fully explored.
If the book can be guaranteed to be updated with new information, then I would get behind it one hundred percent.
what is yet to be explored my friend?
I wasn’t insinuating that we wouldn’t, people just happen to keep their cards close to their chest. No-one wants to put in the effort to make our elderly assassins journal only to have no-one use it.
As it stands it looks like a good idea. I’d imagine it would be updated as necessary.