Gen General Discussion Thread: Theory Fighter!

Sure :slight_smile: Tha Messiah and I were talking about recording some videos just for that compilation he was making

just a question for everyone , how to deal with blanka Roll attack without super or ultra (guard the roll attack)?

dash foward, st.mk

might have to stand up and block tho

its work , you can add hands (Mk-Hands) and Fadc first hit for more damage

Bro. I’d be happy to record them just to record them to show the whole match. Get at me about that.

How do u deal with e. honda’s that literally sit on a lead and just ex head but you twice for half of your health?

What moves stuff headbutt? aside from l. gekiro. It just doesnt make since that honda should get a damn near safe move like that.

Turtling hondas are destroying me off of 3 ex headbutts. I need aLot of help. Honda’s a horrible matchup for Gen.

Turtling Honda’s are one of the most fun characters to play against! :smiley:

Honestly, those types of Honda’s IMO test your patience (aside from Guile). When you get life lead, sit on it full screen.

Some of my comments/tippies:

  • Honda’s cannot do anything on wakeup vs. Gen besides block or ex-headbutt. Whenever I get a knock down, I space and time my jump in; safe jump + ambiguous crossup. If they get an auto-correct ex-headbutt, then they waste 1 bar, if they do it to escape, they still lose 1 bar. Ex-sumo slam will whiff and you’ll be in range for a sweep.
  • C. hp beats Honda’s neutral jump fierce!
  • If I had life lead, I would just sit there as long as it takes, tests out my patience and frustrates them.
  • Stop jumping in when he has meter, walk up > block. Push him back to the corner and do not lose your cool. If you’re getting hit by 3 ex-headbutts, it either means you’re jumping in when he’s sitting there, or you’re doing unsafe blockstrings.
  • If they start jumping in with mp, ex-gekiro, if not then just normal anti air with mantis c.hp or crane c.rh

I really think you’re just clouded by frustration. Once you just sit back, relax, and slow things down, you’ll do a lot better than you think. :slight_smile: Hope that helps

You also have to watch out for EX Buttsplashes, but just safe jump them. You can also learn OS’s.

He isnt a turtle he will serve me with the ex headbutts AND I am jumping in when he nails me but I seriously have no way to get within range without those headbutts murdering my tender body. PLus he has hands combos’ with E. honda as well. I need some video examples Im taking 9-1 losses here. Im a try and be patient … but what ends up happening is Honda is so fast & strong its rediculous. Im not geting any life leads. Im getting completely masacred. One regular combo is 1/4 of gen’s health maybe more… I just need to get better. thanks for the advice.

Where is the info in here on how to safe jump??? That is probably what I need to learn as well.

http://shoryuken.com/f274/gen-option-selects-219512/#post9912132

Np. But I want to stress something; Try not jumping in for 1 round, then switch it up, I think another reason why you’re losing is because you’re on auto-pilot and he’s downloaded you. I honestly think it’s a 5-5 matchup. And if you eat 3+ ex-headbutts, do NOT lose your cool.

I haven’t been able to get any videos of myself but, the most recent thing I have is when I played Mike at NCR8. I’m not sure who this person you’re playing is, but I’ll tell you, he’s no better than Mike Ross.

I tried my best against Mike and he just outplayed me. Here’s the video:
[media=youtube]C5IEvoJIpwY[/media] Starts at 5:51. It’s old but it’s all I have :I

5 fucking Teiga’s traded today… fuck gen.

:frowning: I feel your pain.

But if you connect it, u have so many choices. 50/50 Ogas, safe jump (forward dash, Mantis j.MK is a safe cross-up for 4f reversals), and many more. Feels really rewarding

sorry going air to air with someone and trading with a shyte ass normal is the dumbest thing ever. I don’t care the options after, because how easy it is to hit people out of Tiega is not worth it to me. I’ll take a custom combo ultra any day. even vs sim’s or guiles, where that ultra 2 comes in handy.

I’d rather not try air to air with Teiga considering how many active frames some normals possess (eg. Honda’s nj.HP). In fact, I don’t. I don’t even try on characters with normal AA, since it’s possible for them do have poor reactions and try to do it too late. But it feels fckin good if you connect it on like, Dictator’s DR crap, Akuma’s teleport and Claw.

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so im convinced tht even in AE, gen will be low tier. not to say he is terrible, or you cant win with him, but he just lacks tools to make up for his low stamina. theres other characters that are good at what he does, but they hit harder, or have what gen has plus more

also, anyone notice amiyu not playing gen as of late. looks like hes playing e.ryu, ryu, gouken, and one other character i cant think of

his gen has been at 54k for a good while now

I think we will have to pull our heads together and come up with major Yun and Yang strats. I bet PPP s.MP is going to be our friend.