And damn you for living in CA! You get to play more than me I tell you! (but I promise, if ever I fly over in a not-so-distant future -which is actually possible provided there some research conference interesting enough for me- I’ll go have a blast with you guys)
Check your pms. The link I sent you is to their general section, there’s more to that place than that…I’m just an idiot and didn’t notice what I was copying.
Thanks for the info Giby!
FEAR THE BIRD !
Added some new Kain stuff in the wiki if you guys didn’t know about those techniques already.
Hmm dunno if you guys know this, but www.Orochinagi.com have 3 Garou combo vids (Rock, Hotaru & Grant) if anyone hasn’t seen those yet.
BTW just to be on the safe side- you CAN’T do unblockables with Kain’s :qcf::qcf:+:k: right?
Also, Nocturnal- you can flame me if ya want, heck de-rep if also if ya feel like it, but do you mind if I tidy up some of your additions to the wiki…somewhat?
It isn’t a unblockable if you hit them with a crossup while the super hits them, but you can do a high low mix up to make them get hit with it. Especially if they JD it, hit them low with d + B or small jump D while it they JD it or do his AB overhead after a slight wait. It really throws off a lot of people not to mention the JD has to be done quicker, if you do any of those 2 things while they JD the super. It is possible to JD everything correctly if you see what they are trying to go for. Also at times you can mess up the JD by doing a crossup or even messup there blocking so it does hit them. It is pretty tricky to do a crossup while they are getting hit with his qcfx2 + B/D supers. At times the game runs slow when you try something when they JD the super, block it or get hit by it. Hope this helps.
Go ahead and fix it to your layout doesn’t really matter as long as people know about it it’s coo.
I saw this Grant combo in a BIG SvC combo vid, and I wanted u ppl to have a lookie at it- click me
The link is at the top left and u need Real Player 10 to watch it (if the colors don’t come out right, go to Tools–>Hardware and set the lowest guage/bar/whatever to the middle).
Plz tell me that’s a Prototype combo 
Can’t be done.
No way in hell. He’s canceling d/f+C into specials and a taunt?? Proto, hacked, whatever, this can’t be done on a real version.
Not possible…the end
Two Griffon questions:
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How do you do his peck?
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Whats the best way/time to pull off his press move after his suplex?
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d+AB
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When the opponent is above his head. or you can mash it durring the starting animation.
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Birdy’s a sexy beast.
3s a crowd :smokin:
Thought so hehe.
Ya know I found something somewhat INTERESTING about Grant’s :qcf:+:snkb:; you can ‘cancel’ the ending animation into either of his supers.
Now I doubt this could be useful but just do :qcf:+:snkb: and as the animation finishes do :qcf:+:p:/:k:
@9999: Dude pull it off EVERYTIME you do his :snkc: throw! Just do :df::df:+:snkc: like a maniac and it’ll come out 101% of the time!
I think the qcf B into K super was mentioned in a Grant combo in the wiki. I have yet to be able to catch people with a Punch super off of the qcf B (excluding a counter). You can connect either K super (S or P), but in general it would be better to connect an S afterwards (P usually gets less hits, and it wastes supers). In either case, tho it can be done, it is NOT an optimal option since you will not get in all your hits. Itz still a hell of a way to kill your opponent tho. Heh heh.
Keep Play’n. Peace
On a side note Grant has the fastest d + AB in the game with Tizocs being second place, though both do 2 hits. You can combo after Grants d + AB but the first hit only, has to be done quick into anything really.
Oh shit, sorry I forgot to mention ONE thing about that ‘cancel :qcf:+:snkb: into super’ trick- the :qcf:+:snkb: DOESN’T hit the opponent (i.e. it whiffs), you just input :qcf:+:p:/:k: as the animation of the :qcf:+:snkb: ends and the super should come out >_<. So yeah my bad :nunchuck::nunchuck::nunchuck:
@Nocturnal: ?_? I thought Kevin’s was the fastest?
No Kevins is the best as far as invicibility goes, since his hitbox gets smaller from the d + AB animation. Grants is 6 frames each hit, Tizocs is 7 frames for each hit, everyone else is 10 frames.
OK got it, thanks for clearing that up!
So with Tizoc I can ‘poke’ with Standing :snkc:, Crouching :snkd: or :d:+:snka::snkb:
With Grant, I can ‘poke’ with :d:+:snka::snkb:
OK just curious- anyone seen any good Tizoc and/or Grant matches?
Nothin’ on howard arena? I guess i’ve only seen tizoc lose there… Anywho about Grant’s d+A+B… what sorta combos, 'cause I thought he had no cancels only links?
Not to be a nagging Nancy, but, Nocturnal, if you could hook me up with some Dong strats, it’d be sweet. It’s my passion to be the greatest Dong in the world, have no difficulty with strong matchups, and master all of his difficult combos… If you could help me along the way I’ll hook you up with some fan art or something… (i’m an artist so i don’t have money :p) That goes for everyone, Help Me Achieve My Dream!
^I’d say almost any of his specials & supers will combo after the first hit, but like Nocturnal said- timing is difficult.