Of course being called out on their ridiculous and contradictory views/talking points has never stopped a racist white person before.
@Iduno that shit your talking about is being a responsible adult. Something a person that has their parents “literally” pay for their entire career as a 3rd rate game developer wouldn’t understand. Coming on here with some terrible ass game that looks like it’s background filler for graphics art technical college commercial.
Because I know you’re asking in good faith. XRD has a T rating. This means that its appropriate for those ages. Regardless of how the ESRB judges the game by intended ages, that’s not how it will be discussed in the work/school places which was the original point.
@Hawkingbird Wow that stuff about your bro on why he don’t play RE and other guys not playing games with female leads, just really? Like everyone I’ve ever gamed with growing up, we all had to like and enjoy playing the game first before we gave a damn about the character in the game. That’s how characters like Mario, Sonic, Megaman etc caught on. They’re games were so damn good and became popular. When did shit become backwards where a character makes or breaks the game, then gameplay matters? I mean those who think like that are entitled to their opinion but that’s silly to me.
P.S You present a counter argument to your bro’s logic, and he has no legit respone so he resorts to intimidation and disrespectful remarks. Yep that’s a stereotypical hood nigga for ya. I would know I grew up around such guys
The fuck up thing is he really hasn’t changed his stance on female leads after all these years. My nephew plays Super Mario 3D World all the time when he’s over and likes to play as Peach. When my brother sees that he acts as if he’s commenting a cardinal sin. I’m like, Peach got a hover jump. It’s makes platforming easier. It’s the reason why he plays her. That’s why I played her in SMB2 when I was a kid.
That’s a very unusual reaction but hey it’s just how it is for some people. When I used to game with my nephew and niece the gender of the characters was the least important thing. It was pretty much the same story with my friends too and if anything some of the guys would pick female characters for no other reason they because they’re hot.
I’m not just talking about the age appropriateness rating. Don’t get hung up on that. I’m also talking about the language the ESRB uses when describing the game’s content.
Obviously, parents have the option of purchasing M or T rated games for their kids without regard to what the ESRB says. That’s a personal parental choice.
However, in the work/school scenario you’re talking about, the ESRB’s description of (for example) the game’s sexual content is exactly how it would be discussed among school staff and administrators.
^That’s exactly how it would be discussed among the staff if someone had a problem with a teacher recommending GG Xrd to a 13-14 year old student.
So, when you say…
…I wonder if you’ve considered that the ESRB has already done the legwork for you in this regard. It very clearly describes the game’s so-called “suggestive” content. It specifically addresses your concerns about “an outfit here, a curse word there.”
Given that this example deals directly with the potential problem areas you’ve identified, do you think that their description might be a good guide for you to follow? Even if you, as a teacher, had never played Xrd, you could read that and make a fairly well-informed decision about whether or not to show it to a 13-14 year old at school. That’s the whole point of the rating and the description of the content that it’s based upon.
Just because the ESRB has deemed it acceptable for teenagers it doesn’t necessarily mean their parents or teachers will understand the context or find said game acceptable either, i know this is basic shit and we as gamers know better, but if parent’s see for example Elphelt or I-No and her animations, all logical thought will go out of the door. In the end of the day, it’s better to be safe than sorry.
catching up on what I’ve missed over the past few days, wtf happened?? Pertho did you spill water on your circuits? Ash and co finally got to you =/ Take a Tataki time out this shit will drive you insane.
We already got a warning to avoid going off topic so let’s get back to journalism.
Agree. I think the point that’s getting missed is that the age appropriateness rating doesn’t exist independent of the actual description of the game’s content that the rating is based upon. The game is rated T because [ESRB’s description here]. Pertho had specific worries about outfits and curse words that were covered quite clearly in the ESRB description. Again, there’s a literal alphabet soup of ratings bodies that do this for various consumer media. The question is: Is this an issue for Pertho (better safe than sorry), or is it an issue for game developers? Is it an issue at all outside of Pertho’s very specific scenario?
You’re right. There’s a relevant quote from Pinsoff that I want to quote along these lines:
That’s a good summary of why discussion about this is such a mess. Way too many separate issues crammed into one topic.
It’s an issue for anyone who works with minors, i don’t think it’s specific scenario at all, this question is just as relevant when applied to other mediums; films, books, tv, etc. I remember a teacher asking for permission from parents via forms before being allowed to watch a single episode of x-files during my time at high school. Obviously in Pertho’s context, it’s more casual but it isn’t exactly a thing that affects only video game content.
I don’t work in the education field so i will have to defer to Pertho here, but i presume there is some sort of code of conduct he must adhere to, be it formal or informal, when topics like these are brought up, what is and what isn’t acceptable to mention, bring up or talk about.
I don’t want to push this sub-discussion much farther along, but this statement seems like a contradiction. Not everyone works (in a professional capacity) with minors. I’d say it’s very much a specific scenario which may or not apply to individuals who work with minors.
You guys should make a new thread for ESRB ratings. It’s not even close to being relevant to GG.
Brianna Wu is fucking weird.
She just posted a thread on her game and criticized her game.
Attention Whoring and probably forgot to log to the other account.
She deleted the thread after she realized she was on her actual account and not an alt account.
Just going to leave this here
http://i.4cdn.org/v/1423428856265.png
Yeah she was trying to cause fake outrage and got caught essentially.
That is fucking hilarious.
Wow. You just can’t make this shit up.
@pedoviejo You made a post about how fucked the social sciences are I can’t find it, but just wanted to respond to that. As someone with a degree in sociology and who has a deep passion for the subject spending much of my career in writing as well as my personal time reading, researching, and learning as much as I can about all aspects of sociology it seems from my point of view that the vast majority of people (not limited to SRK) who chime in on the GG topic and more importantly the nature of people and why people are the way they are are simply talking out of their ass. It is so easy and tempting to make grand sweeping generalizations about “the human condition” and all aspects of the topic related to why some people do X while others do Y and it looks like no one wants to do their homework. And before anyone gets butthurt no I am not saying “LULZ SRK stay dumb” or anything like that it just seems to me that parts of the GG/journalism discussion is rooted in topics that are very complex and far reaching yet are over simplified and glossed over and then people wonder why they aren’t getting anywhere…I don’t know it seems like there could be some better more constructive way of talking about these topics?
Anyways the whole GG/journalism topic seems so chock full of pertinent info and debate it looks like if I quit my jobs and spent my entire day reading about all things GG related I wouldn’t be done for months, how the fuck do all you guys keep up with and process and talk about all this info? It seems physically impossible to me lol so props to you guys. Really wish I could chime in as the sociology nerd in me wants to badly but I’m not informed enough to have an opinion either way so carry on guys.