#GamerGate: Keepin' Journos Honest

I don’t think anyone is really generalizing or simplifying issues. We are reporting on the actions and behaviours of people who identify themselves under a certain political ideology. If they are misrepresenting a certain group or philosophy, it’s on the rational people of that particular group to call out the actions of these radicals who are ruining their reputation.

That’s the kinda stunt you pull after being up for 72hrs straight off meth.

Yeah, most of the topics of anything politicized are extremely complex. As you pointed out, these things tend to be oversimplified, and no one gets anywhere. Politicized climates are the worst for discussing complex issues and sadly, in this particular case, the platforms often used by common people such as Twitter are terrible for it. It’s also going to be nigh impossible to be constructive in this topic because one side in particular has a media platform and loud voices to distribute their narrative, which boils down to insults targeted at the other side. I also think that a mindset like their’s is incapable of having an objective and constructive way to reach an understanding between both sides.

This is especially apparent that none of the game sites apologized for the GAD articles and smearing a large portion of the gaming and reader base. On top of that, it wasn’t only until their reader base dropped significantly that a few of them asked what they could do, but still have yet to apologize and it seems they’re only half assedly attempting to address the issues because they’re bleeding money. I don’t think they’re actually concerned with trying to meet someplace in the middle. If they weren’t still trying to spin the same narrative since August, then I’d believe they’re at least a tad bit genuine on trying to address the problems, but that doesn’t seem to be the case based on their behavior.

Yeah, we’re going on month 7 now. That would take a long time to catch up on. If you’ve been there since the beginning it’s much easier to keep up on a day to day basis rather than diving in months after the fact. Still, I’ve seen your posts on game blogging, and I think like me, you’ve seen enough of the garbage piling up over the years that you probably already have a good idea of what’s happening.

I cannot believe you people cannot comprehend that ratings don’t mean shit. You assume that people operate on a rational basis. Some people would be offended by Disney Aladdin because

A. Demon Genie
B. Witchcraft
C. Muslim

Anybody who thinks that you can freely talk about PG-13, PG, and T rated games in front of 13-15 years old is a fool who hasn’t been paying much attention to how the incidence of legal action has gone up. Some parents do not want their kids to ever be exposed to certain things. AS idiotic as that is, it’s your responsibility as an individual if you are working in a sector like public education to be as puritan as possible, otherwise you get got.

yes I did. I only need to look at the way things have changed over the years in say a school setting, and the general attitude of peoples to make that assessment. Is it a generalization? Of course, just like every theory or idea in political science, sociology, and anthropology are generalizations built of statistical means.

Are most topics generalized? Of course, they kind of have to be generalized. This isn’t a topic about super abstract things built of absolutes like Physics, Chemistry, Math, etc. It’s a topic based on something that has a vast array of variable and influences from so many different places, so the generalization are kinda merited in these discussion. And given how they aren’t “academic” ones. (Which I doubt they can be, becuase people can’t even get their definitions correctly and want to use secondary or tertiary ones to justify their platform)

AS for the whole social sciences are fucked. I do believe that and will stand by what I said because of the impact that subject is having. The social sciences are pumping out a great number of people who will have big political influence in the future and they have a poor understanding of their subjects and build their agendas of conjecture. One needs to only look at the political trends of Europe, specifically the Scandinavian ones where the idea and concept of gender is under attack. In their attempt to make a “welcoming and equal” society, they are ignoring that there are fundamental differences between men and women. As if it’s a bad and scary thing, which it isn’t those differences are important but not absolute something they seem to forget about. In other parts of Europe, politicians are speaking a narrative of having the native population adapt and change for the sake of the foreigner rather than have the foreigner integrate into the nation he willingly chose to live in. Why should Europeans be mindful of mocking Muhammad (Granted the whole of Europe is hypocritical on this one)? Or what about the laws that are being passed to prevent the use of certain “trigger words” or things that limit how you can communicate with others over the internet. And it’s not like the US is doing any better, where critical theory is doing more damage than good because these people are still stuck on the idea of the power structure and not asking what created the power structure to begin with.

All these people exiting their respective universities, getting positions of power, and then brandishing their ideas as the only ones that can be tolerated because everything else is intolerant. Especially in school, why the fuck do I have to schedule with the school to make a speech at a designated spot called the “free speech zone”. Possible only thanks in part to the far reaching cancerous touch of forced inclusion and forced tolerance. Do these social “sciences” have a important part in society? they do, but right now, the entire subject is a cluster fuck pushing out too many people with a poor understanding of their subject who end up having too much power. It’s no different than the inane amount of business politicians being in a position of power they have no business in.

I mean look at all the psuedo critical analysis of video games and all the shit it has spawned. We are at a point where questioning if developers should be forced and pressured to make more “diverse” people is equivocal to being a misogonist woman hater who is white and doesn’t understand the pain of not being a white male. LOL even though white women are at the top of the food chain by magnitudes over white dudes.

Which reminds me, ill respond to you @Pertho tomorrow, been busy with school and shit.

Can you respond in another topic, then? If you guys want to talk about game ratings, the social issues that come with minors playing games with mature themes, and the parenting involved in said process, could you make a new topic? None of those things has to do with corruption in the game development and blogging industry. Even though I feel censorship based on a narrative an ethically corrupt blogging press injects is relevant, I really don’t think the former is.

It’s finally happening :joy:

Explain how gamers are to blame for this one Wu lol. This needs to be broadcasted to the world, sooner or later the frauds out themselves, for so long people have claimed she has been behind a lot of her own harassment, even made it up, now we get to see just how warped her mind truly is. Steam needs to throw the ban hammer her way. This is indefensible,anti-gg supporters need to see this for what it is, she is a troll, red flags were been flown day one she jumped on the bandwagon but you chose to ignore them because she was backing your side, she has exploited media’s and your naivety from the very start.

I’m actually curious to see if the game sites stop covering the game now to avoid having to deal with it. For people that don’t like her, the best thing IMO is to just ignore her and let her do increasingly crazy things to regain attention until she turns herself into a joke and the media won’t even want to touch it because of how indefensible it is. Either that or she’s being legit and disappears from the limelight and then you’re happy.

Topic’s still not really about journalism, tho.

Please people. Let’s not let this one slide. I wanna see this fucking everywhere.

https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/564668192577323008
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Anyone donating to her needs to sever those donations immediately!

edit: So apparently she was troll baiting. So this is still just as bad, remember way back when she was caught creating sockpuppet twitter accounts to troll. This is her #1 tactic, she calls out the trolls, leaves enough bait to later play victim and sits back as the money pours in.

Translation: I AM A C U N T.

Fixed for accuracy.

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The most absurd thing are Brianna’s white knights and others.

They are literally the biggest fuckboys I’ve ever seen.

http://i.imgur.com/FWsCKXy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/95MVrKo.jpg

I think we’ve agreed with the social sciences are fubar for a lot of things and a lot of the information and insight they do provide is getting lost in the shuffle to the far left stuff. Only difference is that I’ve dealt with it first hand you haven’t.

This is how you got to where you are:

[details=Spoiler] 1) Tomb Raider comes out. A 3D rendering of a female in a video game which can be considered sexy by western standards appears for the first time. Some women complain but the games are good and the character legitimately great so nobody cares.

  1. Sometime in 2000’s, printed magazines start taking hits. The regular way to advertise games and get reviews start dying.

  2. Online sites start popping up. YaY!

  3. At the same time, PS2 becomes really super duper popular.

4a) The population that grew up with gaming as a legitimate hobby are getting older. With more graphical power, devs can do more adult content. So from here all the way to point 22, games are coming out that feature adult themes on top of the ratings steadily going from E to T

  1. Comic Con is a thing.

  2. Bunch of people with degrees in english/communications/gender studies graduate and become writers.

  3. Gamespot fires an editor for not towing the line when it comes to reviews.

  4. All the starving people with shit degrees and shittier understanding of them get flown places and given a bunch of crap to write reviews.

  5. Tumblr.

  6. Tumblr quickly becomes the #1 place to bitch and moan about a bunch of radfem concepts with little merit and for RockB to hook us up with porn gifs.

  7. A lot of writers start socializing online and, if living in california, in person. A lot of them are hipsters or wanna be hipsters so they get along. A lot of the crowd has that great SJW understing of life so they get along even better.

  8. SJWesque articles on being white being bad and gamers being terrible people start appearing.

  9. Anita (or technically her handler) sees an opportunity to be critic things in video gaming since there really isn’t on here yet. She starts her kickstarter, makes hella money, people throw a bitch fit on the internet.

  10. People write about the hate Anita has been getting and gamers continue to be bad to the same crowd of writers.

  11. Anita gets to say a lot of wacky shit mostly backed by the fact that gaming has gotten older. Gamers being gamers never noticed how much content that can be used for that type of work is out there in gaming.

  12. More hipsters graduate and some of them are making games. They hang out with the writing hipsters.

  13. Indicade happens. Fez is best game ever before its finished and after its finished.

  14. Depression Quest comes out, Zoe gets harassed.

  15. After a bunch of shit, Zoe’s ex writes a post about all the fucked up things she did while in the relationship.

  16. We find out about a lot of other inappropriate things which were happening.

  17. A bunch of media outlets cover the story, Anita gets to talk about her work which has all this evidence to it that game rnerds still don’t understand so she seems legit, people constantly went on twitter to tell her dumb shit so she has other evidence she can use.

  18. SJWesque people succesfully took a dump on gaming but actual gaming media outlets lost a bunch of readers in the process.

  19. Since no gamer ever properly attacks Anita’s work, most newspaper outlets have no reason not to take her seriously. Good job guys, none of you understand where she punched, how or why she was able to do it.

  20. Sennin says sexuality doesn’t matter, acts like a fucking retard when he is explained how it impacts things, he still says it doesn’t matter, I give examples on how it happens with other things too and people keep staying retarded. And that’s why we are at this part of the thread now: because a lot of you dumbfucks can’t take two minutes to look at your hobby with an objective eye and instead wanna pretend that they are stealing your waifus.

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On the fun side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL9_t6P7tkY

So a bunch of trolls decide to make a game called Muhammad Sex Simulator.

Let’s see where a lot of these “game journalists” stand on the right to parody. Falwell vs Flynt will be on ignore as they go crazy over this.

Those trolls aren’t going to live long if they get outed.

Maybe. That won’t really be the issue. If news of the game goes viral, like it did for that movie where the actors’ lines were dubbed over, then the games media is going to have take a stance on this situation. If they err on the side of free speech, then they’re gonna have to accept that a lot of the decisions involving what people put in their games (from tits to gore) are and should be protected, if they don’t then they’ll continue being a bunch of assholes but a lot of people won’t take them seriously. There’s other stuff that this would open the door for but here’s hoping it gets popping.

There is nothing objective in wanting to ban/remove content because you don’t like it. As stated before there is nothing inherently more valid in your prefefences compared to the rest of us. Therefore if you have a problem with sexualized imagery you can quite simply avoid them. You are beginning to sound more and more like anita with this argument.

That last quote. Like really? Before people like Wu gaming was already a multi billion dollar industry. Her, Sharkeesian and whatever have no real impact on gaming. Gaming Industry will continue to prosper because of passionate devs making great, innovative games, and consumers supporting them. Not because a couple of drama queens and their white knights cry harassment, sexism and mysoginism in gaming over the pettiest things.

The gameplay probably involves Muhammad having to dodge reaper drone strikes to get to the American woman on the other side of the level, and rape her. Thus getting revenge.

I know posting anything relating to anita is a bit taboo now however it does relate to gaming journalism. We’ve seen multiple articles from various gamimg sites support Anita’s assertion about the sexist tropes in gaming particularly those of a violent and sexual nature. Well knowing anita’s views on gender representarion specifically violence against female characters I’m very confused by this latest development.

https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/563801492386095105

This is the game’s official site and just look at one of the ways you win in this game.

http://killerqueenarcade.com

In other words one of the ways to beat your opponent is to kill the queen (a female character) 3 times. It would follow that such a game would be considered problamtic given one of its stated objectives but maybe because the queen is leading the team it doesn’t count or something.