Game mechanics? Parry/counters/reversals

X-factor you get a red aura. Pandora you get a TRON makeover. Big difference between the two.

Fuck Pandora. Fuck. I knew this game not having comeback mechanics was too good to be true.

Isnt it a 50/50? Not really a comeback more of a high stakes gamble. You make something happen or die

sethkillian Seth Killian

And re: SFxT Pandora mode, it’s def not a simple comeback mechanic, more like an unholy highstakes gamble. I will break it down soon.

It better not have any roman cancel properties. I don’t want to see people landing a combo and then extending it with Pandora for a guaranteed comeback. Also, if they must make it scale, it should be weaker if you activate it with low health. Players taking a gamble by activating when they have a lead should be rewarded with bigger damage. Of course, that would also be another reason to not give it any roman cancel properties otherwise there will be some concern for touch-of-death combos.

EDIT: And what happens when you do a launcher in Pandora?

They do it several times in the ssmall amount of gameplay we have…

That’s precisely what I’ve been afraid of since vids started to show up 8hit+ combos …
I like performing combos, and I respect people able to perform perfect strings, but there’s nothing more frustrating than being totally controlled without even being able to respond, for 5 to 10 seconds.

This can really break my enthusiasm if there is absolutely no (limited) way to break a long combo.

If there isn’t one in MvC3, you definitely won’t see one here.

Have you played against a good Gen in AE? 20 second combos.

Long chain juggle combos you say?

Get Ready For The Next Battle!
The King of Ironfist Tournament.

So now this just happened

Did it happen after or before absorbing one hit?

They didn’t absorb any hits at all, infact i don’t think you’d be able to absorb hits with it in the first place.
It was just Hold Special > Charge > Dash cancel.
I payed closer attention to the later gameplay streams and it seems like you can only dash cancel it once you reach the EX level. Well those were the only instances where they dash canceled out of it anyway (lighting would hit their character first, signaling it’s charged to EX then they’d dash out of it). You can dash both forwards and backwards.

If you can dash out of it when it reaches EX, maybe you can activate the EX and dash out of it instantly, making it work kinda like FADC. That woould be a nice addition, however, it would be limited to normal moves, so it wouldn’t be a very important mechanic. But maybe Ryu could do it from his s.MP and then do a longer combo.

So as Cammy against a fireball character can I just stand mid screen away, charge my ex move and if they throw fireball release ex spiral arrow (projectile immune) to get some dmg and be up in their grill… and if they move to me and try a jump in so to say I just dash back?

They’ll might have time to react with a jump-in before you reach EX level.

How come no one is talking about the changes to Cross Rush? It definitely got nerfed dmg wise… I saw Zangief do a jump in than his part of the Cross Rush to less dmg on Lili (who has horrible health) than Poison doing a jump in into Cross Rush against Sagat (Gamescon Build) who would be one of the characters with the most health. Seriously Cross Rush was doing shit dmg against Lili on the TGS stream when it use to do 30% easy on most characters.

Also they changed it so you can only Cross Rush while doing a chain, so you can no longer HP/HK Launch (which did pretty beefy dmg in addition to not scaling your follows ups as much).

Also when Lili was in Pandora Mode she went 4 roof tiles back which was about the distance you’re apart @ the start of a round.

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Seems to only take 1 second to charge to ex level, as long as you space it right you shouldn’t be getting jumped in on.

Maybe not so they can punish you, but they might get in for free.

Wait I don’t understand. How does the launcher come out now? You can’t combo into it?

You can only do it from a full :l::m::h: chain.

Oh ok so you can’t :m: :h: into launch right? You must start with

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Sounds like it, though someone will probably have to test.