GAH GRAKH GAH! (Victory is Mine!) Official Firebrand Discussion Thread!

DUDE, Fully charged H demon missile is Unblockable. did not know this. Ive been using a little set up I have on people with Hsien-ko and just thought they werent blocking…
sucks that charge time doesnt shorten in Luminous Body either.

Oh im so going to troll with that fireball loop.:slight_smile:

When I read this, I laughed and said to myself impossible. I went and tested it out and yea its unblockable. Good find.

Im at work and i cant test this out…how is this possible?

Its possible plus if you happen to make contact against the opponent in the air. There is enough time to do L Hell dive, S for a full combo. So far Im able to get 620k (no assist/1 meter) with this opening.

If they’re on the ground after getting hit with the unblockable, they just stagger and you can come down with S to start your full combo too. Man I love firebrand, no bestiality.

Wow, that makes Firebrand even better for his job than I thought he would be. It’s all about that incoming mix-up…C. Viper style!

His pure speed makes Chun-li look like a fat chick XD

wow firebrand and jam session when your opponent is coming in? gg

That makes Sentinel drones a pretty hot pick for a Firebrand team, right? Good thing I already had those two together before I even knew this! Also, this makes me feel way better about his shitty damage output, to know he has something so potentially threatening in his arsenal of opening people up.

Holy **** that is awesome!!! Can someone give me tips? My main team usually includes Hawkeye/Wesker/Anyone (Usually Firebrand or Frank) I’d love some tips :smiley:

@Rayray’s video:

XF 1 Loop: Hmph. That’s from the mission mode. Not impressed.
XF 2 Loop: Holy ****. That’s kinda amazing.
XF 3 Loop: dead

Also, Demon Missile can be charged? Wow. The more you know, huh?

Can firebrand do unblockable setups with Ammy’s cold star assist? I’m guessing yes

im pretty sure if u can get them locked down with the cold star assist and do a fully charged demon swoop then yes. I do i similiar set up with sentinel drones

I went through all of the game’s good pinning assists tonight. Cold Stars works, as does Dark Hole and Senpu Bu; it’s important that the assist work both when your opponent blocks while coming in and when he does not block! Jam Session and Sentinel Force don’t work very well. This was done off of snap-ins, though, so I’m sure you can still make those assists work in other situations. I’m trying to find a permanent snap-in combo with Firebrand to kill entire teams. For example, if my opponent has two characters that can’t air dash, I’d like to find a way to snap one out for the other, start the unblockable combo, build one bar during that (remember I have Dark Harmonizer assist), snap to the first guy, etc. Rinse and repeat until they’re both dead.

Also, I discovered tonight that Firebrand can always get combos off of a basic Hellfire L from full screen in Luminous Body mode as long as you wavedash properly. qcf.L, about 4 dashes, then c.H to transition into a full combo. You can also start this by doing Hellfire L, Luminous Body, and then wavedash behind the fireball. Yes, I realize that starting a combo like this is very unlikely, but that’s not the point! Firebrand still gets a free approach in this method. I haven’t tested his aerial abilities to see if something like Hell’s Elevator M, Hell Dive M works as well.

Is anyone having trouble adjusting to Firebrand’s mobility? It’s so unorthodox I find it hard to move him around the screen freely. He has no airdash and using his command fly moves is tricky and takes some getting used to. I think you need to adopt a very different mindset to move him around effectively.

I’m thinking of just battery Firebrand to use in a Phoenix team. Possibly supporting Jill/Firebrand/Phoenix or getting him on point with someone supporting him.
I find he doesn’t NEED the meter but can use it if he wants (say if Phoenix gets snapped and dies or gets the Dark) and he builds it quickly. Haven’t a Phoenix on the team insures they try snapping her in so Firebrand will ‘survive’ a combo if they do that. Especially if he’s up 2nd when there are already a few bars in stock and they NEED to snap Phoenix or let him get his little helper or her Dark.
Thoughts?

Firebrand/ someone /Phoenix
someone/ Firebrand/Phoenix
What would be good ideas? Thanks! :smiley:

Yea its tough but practice makes perfect. Im starting to get the hang of the gargoyle and it feels good.

I know right it’s funny when you start out it’s really awkward but when you get a hold of him he’s got like the best mobility in the game. This firebrand in Ultimate is probably one of my favorite fighting game characters of all time, he is up there with 3rd strike Dudley in terms of how much I like him.

Edit: Response to Karst about the lockdown assist: is your proposed unblockable a true unblockable or just a tricky mix up.

It’s unblockable, but characters with air dashes can still air dash up and out of it. Characters with aerial beams might also be able to get out of it. For a good portion of the cast, though it’s unstoppable it seems.