When you “state” your opinion about something negatively and often, it crosses the line into complaining.
chillout…who the hell u talkin 2?! i was not referring to that!
teehee! will this be an epic ft10 mm?!:woot:
No, you’re being an asshole to people I consider friends jackass.
AND ONCE AGAIN (retard)
You can state you’re bitchy opinion about a game but all of us don’t want to hear you and others over and over and over again saying the same crying ass bullshit. I’m done with you because I’ve said what I think and I’m sure you and I going back and forth in this thread is starting to annoy people that actually post useful shit to read. Pm me if you want to continue being a jackass.
The last word is all yours…
I like how KhaosDragon likes to try to substantiate his highly biased opinions as if he’s making some educated and factual statement about whatever the topic is. The latest example is him trying to compare MVC3 to Blazeblue, but not being able to go into much detail about Blazeblu. I also like how he complains that MVC3 is a broken game, but just totally ignores what’s broken about MVC2
Now this is what I call a reasonable post. Ya wizzle I see what you’re saying. Ya I am complaining about the game, but at the same time it’s just how I feel about it. It wasn’t my intention to attack anyone. I also stated I think they shoulda made 2 versions for each generation of players.No ONE responded to that. Because in general all people want to do is find something to try and flame you over or try and prove you wrong about. No one responded to FT10, the idea of 2 versions, or even responded the way you did. And honestly I don’t think they really took the time out to say well. Let me see where he coming from for one second or at least try. I’m open to view things from their end, but if all they go do is try and prove me wrong or rant on about how I’m “bitching” nothing is gonna get solved. They wanna be hotheaded let them be.
Litttle known fact, Issac aka Cyber_Akuma plays Iron Man in MVC2. So they should have a FT10 to see who is second best Iron Man in the state. We all know Excitebeast has the best Iron Man in GA
What friends have I insulted PLEASE LET ME KNOW. You still fail to point out in my post what you mean. FUCKING quote it and break it down because right about now all you sound like is an asshole having a bad day trying to vent your frustration. Then ignore it idiot. I don’t wanna hear you accuse me of shit I ain’t doing. Get off your fuckin ego trip, not everyone is PMS’in like yo dumb ass.
And JTO he not go FT10 me. And Branh OMFG. I KNOW MVC2 IS BROKEN. I ADMIT IT!!! I NEVER said it wasn’t. Yes my opinions are biased what opinions arent!!! And also say all this shit to me to my face please?? Oh and you never responded back about the Ruby Rogue matches after I said I won’t have tron. I see you IGNORED that shit.
lmfao! Yea he is!!!
I’m talking to you who the hell else name was in the quote??
That is also the subject we were on the past 3 pages or did you over look that??
My bad education slips the mind of weaker individuals my apologies!!
And for the record Ga Blaz Blue players, Khaosdragon wasn’t/isn’t the only top MvC2 player who has stated the comparison onf MvC3 & BlazBlue, Developers of the MvC3 genre and top players from vs past and current BlazBlue players have made similar comparisons.
Don’t think because you “Only” care enough to read here “or” what someone posts here, that this thread is the end all be all of these discussions.
I’ve posted quotes of the MvC3 argument from both sides,the sad part is people in Ga are so damn dumb they still waiver to just one side,to justify there own ignorant decisions.
All a waste and we just got finished talking about education and the lack there of in this state, in this thread, education and it’s lack of funding has jack shit to do with what people are saying and typing on these pages, either way continue, I will be giving interviews at the tournament about this game, the conversations we’ve had about this game and other things so keep this shit coming.
I guess ignorance really is bliss
I’d love to see his IM then. Like I said before FT10.
lol! u spend ur whole day monitoring this site or something looking to start some ish?
i guess ignorance really is bliss…
Well I don’t have a problem listening to them and getting along with them, but if all they gonna do is shoot off their mouth and call me ignorant and a jackass I’m gonna be less inclined to listen to them and their points. It’s like tryna talk to a bunch of 6 yr olds. I WANT them to present facts and try and at least state why they’re for the game, but if those are the kind of responses I’m gettin fuck em. Iggy and Wizzle both posted reasonable comments. And I respected that. Look at my responses, no problems.
I’ve seen the comparisons, Khaosdragon’s however were based off of pure ignorance to both games.
I normally won’t call someone out on their opinion if they can back it up, but this is literally just mindless ranting.
I’ll provide facts when I get off work if that’s what it takes. Not that hard.
I’m going to try and explain this rationally, no trolling/condescending intended
As eshii already said, S button in MVC3 is a universal launcher, D in BB is more like a cross between a command normal and a special, most basic D moves dont even launch (Valenhayne’s is a transformation for example) and there is nothing universal about them.
Loops into super ender, actually. To imply most combos “revolve” around drive is simply false, Bang for example only uses 1-2 drive moves for most of his bnbs (he doesnt even need to at all in some cases). Hakuman’s Ds are all counters, no use in combos at all except as a (rarely used)starter
You could apply this the any button in any fighting game, a good 5a/2a for alot of characters gives way more of an “advantage” than D moves could in most of cases anyway.
Finally i’m not gonna bother getting into an argument about mvc3 as a whole, but complaining about the layout is just silly, and we really need to get past it. You might as well say that mvc2 is a more noob friendly game because it has 1 button assists and no medium attack buttons. Is it easier than in 1? sure. But not by much. Keep in mind also that most of the common launchers in mvc2 are also 1 button, be it Mag cr.HP, Psylocke AAA, ect. At the end of the day, the layout has little to do with a game’s depth/difficulty compared to the actual systems
I see what you saying, but I’ll put up the youtube vids to prove my point later. I’ll just have to show you guys what I mean because we’re speaking from different aspects. I respect your post though.
while I think khaosdragon isn’t really expressing his opinion very well, I do see where he is coming from when saying the game has similarity to blazblue. The game’s system is much more similar (left/right air teching and rolling, hitstun scaling, how the damage scaling works, damage proration on throw combos, loop specific hitstun scaling etc.). Many people such as I in my area who played Blazblue with Raph for a little while (not at his level of course but we did play it) have expressed a Blazblue type feel from the game, including Raph himself.
the transition from Guilty Gear to Blazblue is very similar to the transition from MvC2 to 3.
i also know what he’s talking about saying it is more broken than mvc2.
let’s compare what happens in both games when sentinel land’s his frying pan attack (j.hp in mvc2, j.s in mvc3) air to air:
mvc3: he 100%s you off an impossible to not hit confirm ground bounce that lasts a million years, he gets this no matter if he’s at super jump height or normal jump height
mvc2: at normal jump height:
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he is UNSAFE ON HIT.
at super jump height he gets that 1 j.hp and that’s it, no unsafeness, that’s it.
in mvc2 to land big damage combos you have to be really on your shit.
But really okay so the game is different. Us mvc2 players have to vent our feelings because a lot of us waited a long time for this. i mean shit, my main fucking characters got left out of the game (megaman and cable). the system is very different and honestly pretty much everything i truly loved about marvel 2 is gone. I like having to pay your red life for a DHC, I liked tagging out being very high risk but leading to a free combo, I liked resets in the mvc2 sense where you had no left/right teching and they were much faster, I liked being able to airdash cancel on whiff, I liked being able to cancel normals to tag out, I liked the OTG system and the rolling system, I liked the pushblock guard cancels, I liked the switch glitch, I liked not being able to jump before the match starts, I liked tagging out in small gaps in a string being very difficult, I liked sentinel not having this hyper armor bullshit he has on this game, I liked sentinel being fast, I never liked him doing that much damage off like 3 hits and they only increased his damage what the hell, I liked that the game was filled with awful options not just good ones so that choices were meaningful unlike this game where it seems like everything is good, I liked antiair assists actually functioning, I liked dr. doom being able to wavedash, I liked whiffing normals to build meter, I liked being able to fast fly, I liked reflies, I liked airthrow resets and airthrow infinites, I liked that people turned around in super jump mode, I liked guard breaks, I liked that if someone threw a fireball while normal jumping they couldn’t block on the way down, I liked that the game felt so low quality that it was good hitting the spot like some waffle house at 3am, i liked that you couldn’t airdash by double tapping, i liked that you didn’t have input shortcuts so that if you backdash and then try to do QCB you dont get RDP motion, i liked that the system didnt hand characters all their combos on a platter and instead just gave every char a million tools and you had to put it together yourself, I liked the y-boost system, i liked how motion felt, I liked how every day you played the game something new happened but that has already stopped happening to me on mvc3, i liked how pushblock didnt negate chip damage, i liked there being no comeback mechanics so that something like the justin vs josh360 mattered, i liked turtling not being so passive, i liked there not being characters like x-23 and zero who seemed to be designed with “this tool does this mixup” etc vs chars like mags who were just given a set of tools and those turned out to be very good for rushdown (emergent properties and all), i liked the amount of ridiculous “you must be this tall to ride” signs in mvc2 for noobs (doom jump back fierce, sent mouthbeam xx drones, ruby heart waterfall trap, etc), i liked the emphasis on DHCs in combos for big damage, I liked that not everyone had a speedup super, I liked supers where you couldn’t do anything after the flash (AHVB), i liked the emphasis on tiger knee’d motions, i liked being able to cancel launchers into things, i liked sweep into launcher not fucking existing, i liked having to dash in after landing a jumpin, i liked being able to control the distance that pushblock pushed, i liked not having horrendous hitbox glitches, i liked sent not having a double jump, i liked not having hitstun scaling ruin every cool combo idea i have, i liked the amount of freedom the combo system gave, i liked being able to punish assist while they are taunting, i liked snap outs lasting longer, i liked being able to call assist or tag out when the previous char has died, i liked being able to dhc while an assist is on the screen, etc
its okay if you don’t like mvc3 but it doesnt remotely feel like a sequel to mvc2 other than having 3 characters on team, assists, and a related cast. and pretty much every character that returned plays completely differently. While people might complain about SF4, on SF4 sagat still is sagat, ryu is still ryu, etc. On MvC3 mags is no longer a pure rushdown character, iron man is even more boring (how the hell did they do that to a char i hated already), akuma even though he needed to be buffed is also extremely dumbed down, they removed everything i loved about sentinel and made him do more damage which i hated about him in the first place. Dr. Doom doesn’t do the wavedashing lights into shit anymore… in fact i was extremely hyped about playing dr. doom on 3 only to be extremely disappointed that he plays nothing like how he used to. ryu is nerfed from mvc2 except for having safer on block shinkuu hadouken (WTF?). i was ready to play tron but they took out her iad fake “triangle jump” that now ZERO has instead but i wanted it with her moveset.
pretty much the only returning character they left intact was Wolverine.
the funny thing is that there is a TON of things on MVC2 that I FUCKING HATE. and guess what they kept most of it on mvc3 but took out everything i liked.
its not a sequel to the game i love. and i feel like if you played marvel 2 you have the right to complain about the game because it is supposed to be a sequel. don’t get me wrong, it is a decent game but it is marvel vs capcom in the same way that kayo police is a woman…
Iggy and CyberAkuma: I remember you two telling me you didnt like MvC2 because it was too broken… yet you like MvC3?
MvC2 players: Bama has decided will start playing MvC2 again after final round, I hope that y’all will be willing to play some.
everyone’s entitled to an opinion.
it’s when you shit on other’s opinions that you look like an ass.
as a whole we need to agree to disagree, otherwise GA won’t level up.
No, I’ve never told anyone that I didn’t like Marvel 2 because it was too broken in the sense that stuff could kill you and shit got crazy, I always refer to the fact that unless I am playing out of 8 characters I am dead at even low levels. That is a broken game to me, when only 16% of the cast is usable.