I do believe I was civil until he for some reason called my player skill in to question when I wasn’t even remotely speaking to him. No, if I jumped him it would have been a lot more hilarious.
Doesn’t even matter. I already spoke with Iceman. He gave me the info, so I’m just going to do what I should have done from the get go and just ignore him and let him fade back into 2002.
from what I saw he was just stating a fact about most GA players. He didn’t say “Iggy you fuckin suck.”
FUCK YO PERFECT was pretty epic. Even though I was rooting for demon hyo (pennsylvania pride), that was a pretty damn entertaining set to watch at FR.
Quoted my post, took my wording and then turned it around to say “players” suck. Doesn’t even matter, like I said, I spoke with Ice, his comment was what it was but it doesn’t matter, ghost, 2002, etc. People need to learn not to call out peoples skills just because they hear a valid argument.
Honestly, I am tired of people putting OG in front of their names and thinking that they get some sort of leeway to bitch and moan about crap. I am OG and I have never had the desire to point that shit out or use it to say I am better than someone. I mean, my god people, not everyone can growup in the early 90’s.
Well I don’t think it’s right to use it to say you’re better than someone, I’m also an OG, but I mean that’s like saying the veteran has no business telling the New Trained soldier how to survive in battle, just because the weapons are different than it was 20 yrs ago. It’s all about experience, yes things are different but that doesn’t mean he’s not right. You WILL listen to the veteran when your stuff not panning out like you think it would.
Chain of events for reference sake, less important parts paraphrased to control space.
Going to have to say you started this one with an off-hand comment Chris.
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Man Max I wish I would have started playing marvel when you and joe started playing. obviously i still play marvel online. Its just some stuff i cant handle. Like Sent and Mag backing him up. I cant get close to him. I remember u telling me to get him to the corner but how do I do that. And I good Cable will always beat me. Just not enough experience.
In other news all this Dark Phoenix bitching and whining constantly spamming all my inboxes is driving me crazy. I don’t understand how people complain about winning with a character that they like to play. Some people in the fighting game community are sooooo free that they’d rather handicap themselves and lose for a sense of dignity? Its shit like that that makes everyone so free to Marn in TvC, and why the BB community is killing itself due to two characters.
It’s 2011 and the concept of playtowin has totally been lost.
To address a (-n unfinished) conversation I had with someone from this thread, I am interested in finding a solution to a problem seen in GA and the state in which I currently reside, AL. That problem happens to be: the players aren’t good.
Of course, being “good” is relative, subjective, whatever you want to call it. I used to be good at fighting games, until I got to college and realized there was strategy involved. I improved, and eventually made my way to EP, where I learned that even the people who were “ass” were way better than me. Thus, my definition of the word “good” had to change. But that’s enough of that.
I’ve heard a comparison between Kobe and Vince Carter. The commentator mentioned that they had the same level of talent, but Kobe was more motivated and had a better mindset to win championships. (whether or not they have/had the same talent can be debated, but it’s besides the point) Can you make the same comparison between “good” players and players in the Southeast?
Just what is keeping GA/AL off the map? Is it a mental block? Execution (which is so much more than combos)? Tactics? WTF? The topic of innovation (and figuring out the game) came up, which gets me thinking that it could be a real advantage. One particular weakness of this “era” of fighting games is the lack of real thought. Everything is streamed or on Youtube, but it gives players an excuse to mimic other players. Imagine coming up with a style with you and your sparring partners, and seeing someone use it on you at a tourney. If you really did your job, you’d just be plain better at it (since you understand the mindset behind it and all of its inner-workings) unless they were extremely good or managed to expand upon said style. This is all-to-common nowadays and makes for weak play. It’s may just be one of the reasons Japan is still better. They don’t stream EVERYTHING…as far as I can tell. More individual styles of play. Better adaptation skills.
It seems to be the opinion of multiple people that motivation and/or dedication are the primary reasons GA players don’t win majors. When’s the last time anyone from GA has won a game at a major? Really? I have no clue.
Then there’s getting mindfucked before your match, like someone did @ FR last year playing JWong in finals. Lost every match. MM after GF, and lost every match again. Mental preparation helps.
But, hey, what do I know. I’m ass…
I suppose narrowing down the problem (and actually admitting it) would be the first step to solving it. I see no real reason outside of travel issues that could stop GA players from being elite. Of course, it’ll take more than one person not even living there to do anything about it. What’s the solution? Find new players? Probably a more realistic answer, with how stubborn some people seem to be.
Where the hell is AceUno? You said you’d teach me Garou.
That’s fine and all Khoas, but my point isn’t that he’s not right, just that he is misdirected in the first place. This game was never going to be MAHVEL 3, and anyone that went in to this thinking that was misdirected, but that doesn’t mean that we all need to sit down and praise be to OG just because we played shit when Capcom was still trying to figure out how to market correctly.
And Kent, off handed comment aside, I hadn’t even put him in mind when I said that. I truly was thinking about GA as a whole, and if he chose to read it as ATLien is bitching, well, he read in to his own post more than I did. Either way, it’s not something that hasn’t been said a thousand times before. Hell, you know what, you tell me Kent, what is GA’s community filled with?
Kent, you know we’re cool, so please don’t take any of that as an attack, or else I’ll be forced to speak to you OG to New School/Worthless piece of trash, and you will be forced to sit down and worship me because I played when it was real. SHAWTY CURLY MUSTACHE PRAISE BE TO TOMO!
I think people should settle down and not worry too much on how deep the game is right now. How about we try to have fun with the game first, then worry about it’s competitive value after we all have a good feel for the game. I do, however, fully support posts like Max’s presenting a problem. We will need more things like this because if you do plan to compete in this game, you will most certainly run into that strategy. I do also believe that just because you are a “vet” doesn’t mean that a newer game sucks because you get beat. Of coarse people will lose to you when they play a game that they haven’t played. Now is the time to show what you can do when the largest competitive player base that the community has ever seen is standing before you and victory.
I JOINED THIS SITE BACK IN MARCH OF 2001! SO I OUT RANK MOST OF YOU CUNTS.
Anyways, I get real defensive when my beloved city is talked down on. But yeah, no reason to go ape-shit dude.
its no reason for me to have posted. i don’t care about being good in games anymore (neither does most people that post in this forum), so i should not have added my two cents in about the new marvel. it got iggy’s man-panties in a wad. i didn’t come into the forum saying “i know better than all of you because you couldn’t beat me 1 game out of 50 in mvc2.” i just stated my opinion, its almost like he cracked open a bottle of neopolean complex on my ass. started sayin show each other dicks and but it dont mean shit and stuff lol. i quit drugs, you should too.
@mysticblack: On the topic of where the hell is X dude: Where the hell is ShinVoltron/Nemoo? He said he’d teach me VS.
INCOMING WALL OF TEXT a.k.a. The GA bread and butter
If you don’t agree with any of this oh well this is filled with my opinions and I don’t expect everyone to agree; feel free to correct me with your own bias 
As far as your actual topic goes it’s a combination of all the things you mentioned and it’s relative to each player.
Motivation is definitely an overarching theme for GA players A LOT of newcomers I’ve attempted to train in SF4 promise dedication then when I or whoever is around as well dominate them in casual games they start feeling butt hurt and give up fast, a lot of todays players just don’t have the drive to work to excel.
Some intermediate level players claim they don’t have the time or money to come out to things. A lot of us aren’t rich so this is usually a reasonable excuse, but there are times when if you’re honest with yourself then you’ll see if you had done things differently prior to whatever event you can’t attend now then the outcome could’ve been different; and truthfully somewhere in the past you made a choice.
I’ve met some players who do it the old school way of not using the internet for research. Now that information is readily accessible to you at anytime why don’t you look up new tactics and strategies that could quickly and easily augment your base game? The answer to that one is you don’t really care. How about checking out frame data and move properties? You’d be surprised how many people can’t read frame data, granted it usually doesn’t give amazing to boosts to your game to read over it but it could give you a few new tricks here and there or let you get more out of punishes.
Another thing you hit on was mental toughness (Not getting mindfucked). This is a strange one to evaluate as some people naturally have more confidence than others, but I do believe if you’re lacking in this area you can build yourself up with experience. Another thing I think limits some people here is the “bullshit radar”. In some instances players will claim that something about the game isn’t fair and is broken and while this may or may not be true it does not really matter. If you mark something in your mind as broken and believe that the people abusing this is not really earning their wins against you then you will never beat that person. To put it plainly you’re not dealing with the problem and mentally you wont let yourself.
Think I’ll take a break here, I’ve typed a good bit and I’m bad at just getting to my points. I’m sure others will pick up the slack.
We did not host an Impact Clash this past year sir, Shinblanka hosted S.E.B during that month:wonder:
CMON YALL ITS METAPHORICAL DICK 
The GA scene isn’t suffering because people aren’t willing to get better. It’s suffering because a bunch of pretentious assholes own the fucking scene. The issue is from the top down, not the bottom up. Similar to the issues in corporate America. Half of the issues with anything is usually at the top level. But everyone want to pick on the little men because it’s an easier target. There is no one in the GA scene who ISN’T grinding. And that’s fact. People are getting together, having sessions all night all over the fucking state. But somehow GA is stagnant, because one person says so. Great logic there.
Honestly the main issue is that the scene is full of fake sycophantic brown nosing spineless impressionable teenagers. Sure on paper many in the scene are older than their teen years, but the GA scene runs like some sort of high school special. Everybody is just giving each other hand jobs, and not worried about competing. You want to really know what’s embarassing about the GA scene? Split pots. I’m glad blackwhiteboi won, because had it been Cardell, Eddie, and JTO we would have seen another lackluster top 3 finish. We would have seen a bunch of dudes just dicking around. But no one says that’s a waste of time. There is nothing competitive about the GA scene, because people don’t compete. They just the Justin Wong factor when they’re up against people who aren’t half as good as Justin Wong. And anytime someone acts like they want to dethrone this self-imposed God-tier of the GA scene, they are scolded and called trolls. I think troll is kind of like “Fresh” back in the 80s. People just said “fresh” just because. People now just say someone is trolling because it’s the cooles thing to say, even though what someone may be saying isn’t even meant as a troll. I have a more than valid excuse as to why I’m not better than I am. It’s mainly because I have other things in my life to worry about than gaming. But hey I try to game when I can. i just can’t show up on a random gathering on Wednesday when I have to be at work in the morning, or I need to be logged into my laptop (if I’m working from home). Just can’t do it. What’s holding people back is that they’re afraid to be better than the people who are at the top. I can’t say anyone in the GA scene is hungry enough to turn the ranks around. They’re too busy spreading their asscheeks for people they consider good.
You made some good points there Kent. You have to be your own player and approach all of this in the manner that allows YOU to grow, you know? Don’t play like a quoted post in the strategy section, play however you want to play.
To have the guts to win you’ve got to have even more guts to lose. And half of this in my opinion is honestly saying fuck you to the norm’s of this scene and beyond.
Whether or not you had him in mind you posted your opinion at an awful time directly after Max posted and he believed you were snidely responding to him.
GA’s fighting game community is filled with hard headed individuals that have full faith in their own opinions and as a result constantly clash with each other creating division across the state.
That 2nd section of your post is filled with random Chris Greene-esque bullshit. I know we’re cool, but I think the sickness is going to your head a little bit 
So true in many ways.
Every player that I’ve taught Sfiv has either already quit playing or they’re no longer progressing due to lack of enthusiasm/interest mostly because they lose to everyone else who has been playing longer or is more enthusiastic about the game.
I’m totally guilty about learning games the old fashioned way, just try stuff in training til it works. But I’ve been getting out of that habit since vanilla sfiv. I’ve studied the game extensively, and its helped me improve drastically. IMHO, I do think that everyone who wants to play better should do the same.