Oh ex jag kick! Didn’t read that right. Thought I read jag tooth.
All jag kicks can be stopped by ex jag tooth. I doubt it was on reaction (sorry to be a Debbie downer). Go into training room and try to recreate that situation. Try and j.mp as soon as your brain recognizes the situation. It will knock you out of jump animation. He had to have anticipated it.
Because my anti air recognition is top of the line… And I can’t even use c.mp on jag kicks without absolutely knowing it’s coming.
Edit: oh in air?! He reacted to your jumping attack, and stuffed it on start up probably. Yea… That’s not hard, but I don’t recommend that as a means to dealing with jag kicks.
Cammy? I zone. Dont let that bitch in. She’s top 5 for a reason. Her pressure is really good, and it’s damaging. Real, fucking, damaging.
I like ultra 2 for this match.
yeah, it was an in air EX jag kick but he didn’t stop it on start up. Adon had done his somersault already and the ex kick’s slash was already animated when he connected with j.mp.
i couldn’t believe it either. the only reason i did ex jag kick was to chip damage since he had a sliver of health left, but he stopped it and then he followed j.mp up with hp xx ex pinwheel. he won the round.
i was like "really? really? j.mp beats mid air ex jag kick? really? seriously?"
sorry but i didn’t save a replay of that match.
i didn’t think it was worth saving at that time. plus i’ve used up all my replay slots then i have to debate to myself which match i should delete to save another match. i didn’t think it was worth deleting another match to save that one.
oh and i found out last night that ex pinwheel beats chun’s ultra 2.
the chun li u2 fireball sphere gets animated but juri doesn’t get hit by it while she’s ex pinwheeling. i saved the replay so i’ll show it here whenever i get the chance.
as for cammy, i personally gave up on using u2 against her and choose u1. i do better against her with u1 than with u2. u2 always feels hard to set up against her.
who knew that a move with projectile invincibility would beat out a projectile!? i can’t believe it, i have to see the video! thanks for sharing there old pal!
you’re welcome?
lol.
well, i was surprised that i didn’t get hit since her u2 does last a long time. i guess ex pinwheel last just as long? regardless, its cool to watch.
Chun U2 is pretty deceptive and fragile, a lot of stuff can beat it actually.
yunno, yesterday i was thinking that if ex pinwheel has invincibilty regarding projectiles then it could be used to counter something like evil ryu’s fireball ultra. since e.ryu’s ultra fireball shatters her counter, i guess i could avoid its chip damage now. its a strategy i never thought of before.
On the topic of her divekick, I find a lot of uses for it.
Tk dive works wonders against characters that like poking with c.mk, especially since tk dive, lk pw gives excellent okizeme.
Also in the Dhalsim matchup it can be used to punish st.hp, and other limbs if you are already in the air.
Dhalsim can’t punish Juri hard for straight jumping and jumping outside his b+hk range, so the risk/reward is in Juris favour there.
I also like using it as an anti air, jumpback divekick works wonders, especially against other divekick characters.
And it’s great to mess up anti airs from other characters too.
IMO it has a lot of uses, but it is different (from other divekicks) in that it should only be used with a clear purpose.
There’s no point in ever using it because “who knows, something good might happen”.
Juri sc.mp
:3
Really? That stuffs her U2?
Chun u2 doesn’t have full invul, so you can trade with it quite easily
Why bother trading when u can dodge it or ex pinwheel punish. =)
Of course, just an example of her ultra being bad up close.
But if you want a reason, ex pinwheel works, but sc.mp xx ex pinwheel also works.
Also, guile doing sonic hurricane, you can just walk forward if they do it up close. You avoid it completely.
i forgot to mention far standing mk beats Adon’s hk jaguar tooth.
i was playing against a good juri using adon…every time i tried hk jaguar tooth, he stopped it with mk. i dunno about ex j tooth. i doubt mk stops it. have no clue, too lazy to check in training mode.
Ex tooth trades if you are late with far mk, you can nj hk or jump mp and hope he didnt do either lk or mk jag kick. Juri shouldnt have a problem with jag tooth ever imo.
Far hk outright beats jag kick but its horribad startup is usually beaten by jag kick. Far mk and close mk can brat the startup of jag kick. And you can even dash under and catch the recovery of it. Crouch tech with mp or hp can beat it as well.
Everything else about adon is fine. He (like viper) doesnt have to care about footsies at all. He even has really good footsies if he does want to play footsies. Mix that with the fact that he can get ex jag kick can sometimes cross up on juri’s hitbox. I would say those are the most frustrating things that juri has to worry about when facing adon. Spacing and jag kick.
Edit: forgot about juri’s fuzzy guard susceptibility. Adons fuzzy guard combos are a lil more character specific than ours too(juri probably has more setups or the adons havent discovered as many). Sometimes he can hit the in air lk jag kick after the nj.mk and sometimes it doesnt. Juri’s hitbox allows him to get his most damaging combo as well.
People a little bit of help here:
-Tips for Fei Long and other Juri bad match-ups
-Any particular and effective mix-ups that I should know ? Fireball, rekka, dive kick, anything ?
I have a tournament tomorrow and wanted to check this. I’m participating in the Treta Armageddon Championship and this week I was training for SFxT. I wanted to check if there’s anything useful for tomorrow since I don’t know what’s updated and what isn’t.
If the answers are in pages before just say it and I go check it later.
Damn this is really helpful, thanks for the post!
So who has setup technology for timing juri’s overhead to stuff ex psycho crusher escapes?
screens here
NxC was really a chore though, so let’s hope this one plays better.
stupid noob question.
anybody know how to stop dan’s tatsu? including his ex?
i was thinking cr.mp…but i’m unsure.
also, kail said to me that focus attack is what to do against vega’s dive/drop…but, there’s this one good vega that’s a bit savier and he does this 2 hit dive that fucks my focus attack/fadc every time.
now what do i do?
is it that i should be more on point regarding my fadc where i haveta dash out before the second hit?