try crouching L instead. im not sure about how it compares to st. L in terms of frames but since its hitbox is lower i find it makes it a little easier to catch them before they hit the ground.
Yes landing the L is dependent on the opponents height and like it says in the vid you need to delay the S a tab bit.
Both L and c.L have the same startup 6.
There is some good stuff hidden in the combo thread, its a shame the op never gets updated.
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0:41 anyone?
I’d like to amend the Jill strategies by saying that DHC’ing from MGS to BLS only works with enough screen space left away from the corner, the exception being the left side corner in which MGS will cross up for no reason, giving you the entirety of the stage to BLS through.
I’d also like to add that DHC’ing from Raven Spike to a whiffed Survival Techniques allows Frank a snapshot; and that her wallbounce assist, Arrow Kick, can double his PP with an extra snapshot from anywhere assuming the wallbounce has not yet been used. These tactics together can allow Jill to level Frank by herself as long as she finishes a combo at least 16 hits long with Raven Spike.
I could record a crappy phone-camera video for reference if you like.
Also, why is this thread not stickied?
EDIT: I asked DarkPhoenix to sticky the thread because this is a brilliant idea that more people should read and contribute to.
You could level Frank to 3 (perhaps 4) w/ a Rawtag after the dual ender as well.
you could take 100 pictures but that would never work in a real match
vergil is probably one of frank west’s best partners
That is now my life goal.
Wolverine Frank level 4 with no tac. Saw it done before with an OTG but heres a more improved version. Key is to land Bluelight Special near midscreen. I tried having it go further and connecting with S into J S or JHS or Knee drop but no success due to hit stun . Maybe one of you guys can nail it?
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I got the idea from nonsexualrice’s post, and then a similar combo using Wesker otg. However I wanted a more meter gaining combo and to do it with an anchor that allowed ppl to get in and still level up frank. I’m sure this would work with other anchors such as doom. This is also posted on the other thread but just in case anyone missed it. It was done in the corner to show that’s still viable.
Thats a smart way to go. Using the ground bounce after and using Frank for the initial relaunch. Really smart application there, I like it. Its also easier to do with Fatal Claw.
Yea I am going to attempt to try using both assist in the lab right now to test if this is viable no matter which assist gets the hit for you. I thought about using fatal claw but wanted to be sure I was close enough to the corner after going full screen. This might become my main new team 
Esp after the video I saw with Arthur and Frank by you. Good stuff!
EDIT: Works off all normal hit confirms (instant overheads, dive kick, b slash conversion) and both assist are viable
I’ll keep making those. Working on a bigger project right now though and thats taking up alot of my time.
As for the shopping cart, you do not have to be near the far corner at all and fatal claw is a better choice from the corner as there is less guess work involved that way.
The YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHH at the end was great
Simply great
Ah ok. I realized that you dont have to be in the corner, in fact I know its preferable to be in the middle of the screen. I did it like that just to show that it could be done in the corner as well by crossing up with the b slash first. Unless you meant you don’t have to reach the far corner. But thanks for the fatal claw advice!
EDIT: I see what you mean about not having to be near the far coner. And yes fatal Claw works alot better! Plus more hits! Thanks!
Improved version off a hit confirm with shopping cart. Could have more hits if I delayed a little longer for the fatal claw but it still easily 50 hits and its late. I really need to get recording equipment 
Liking this team more and more.
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Out of curiosity, can Wolverine attain Level 4 Frank without assists using a similar method? Berserker Slash to steal the corner before the DHC is a clever maneuver.
Yea just do a regular bnb up to dive kick ground bounce and then fatal claw or slash fatal claw. Gets to 51 hits. The meter gain though isn’t the best. Damage is similar.
So yes it can be done, and is actually easier to do if you already have the meter. However starting stock one bar doing it with both assist allow you to build that other bar allowing you to DHC into blue light. So if you get a hit in the beginning of the match with wolverine with both assist you will be able to level up frank. Regardless of which assist lands the hit or if one whiffed. As long as you have one for the slide otg
Now can you do it with just Frank’s assist? 
I’ll try when I get home. I kind of want to play Frank, Spencer, Wolverine
In what order? Wolverine, Frank, spencer?
Probably. I still say Spencer/Trish/Frank with Low Voltage assist is the way to go for Spencer/Frank players. That sounds mean too, though.
Also, guys, I have a huge favor to ask of the Frank forum. I don’t think it can be done, but if anyone can find a way to consistently get to level 4 without a TAC for Taskmaster/Frank/Dorm or Taskmaster/Dorm/Frank, I’ll love them forever.
Likely. I think I could also make Wolverine, Spencer, Frank work. The team isnt the best choice, but it would be fun!
I’ll play with it when I get back to my system. What assists?