Okay, two things.
One, there was NOTHING wrong with black Kingpin as it was a great actor behind him. His portrayal of the Kingpin was one of the movie’s few bright spots.
Two, Black West Family - SUCCESS
Just mad this movie is still going to make a shit ton of money off of the name alone. Doom will have his revenge!
That’s twice you’ve been on some dumb shit today.
We the Futhark take no responsibility for whatever other bullshit this one eyed motherfucker says for the rest of the day.
Black Kingpin sucked man, shit just aint believable, especially nowadays when the NYPD is on point with that kinda thing. “ermagawd black guy! blam blam blam”
Rotten Tomato update
Critic Review Average: 10%
Fresh: 12
Rotten: 106
Critics have reached consensus: It’s shit
We’re also getting info from the movie going crowd
Roughly 120,000 User submitted reviews
Average Score: 2.4/5
34% liked it.
34% may seem like a lot, but for reference sake, Rise of the Silver Surfer has a 51% Like rating and the average Micheal Bay flick comes in at around that amount as well
black kingpin sucked my hairiest ball. It wasn’t that he sucked, it was that he was a terrible Kingpin. I wanted D’Onofrio back then, and when I eventually got him, it was sweet as pie.
I’m still in awe that black Johnny Storm isn’t the most fucking retarded part of the movie.
more like johnny donut nigga 
He didn’t apologize. He threw his own movie under the bus citing studio interference killed his vision and his original vision was fantastic.
Man that’s lower than DB evolution
I liked Michael Clarke as Kingpin. Would you have preferred this instead?
No, but I think everyone would prefer this
I won’t disagree that Marvel got it even more right, but don’t be shitting on Micheal Clarke Duncan either.
black kingpin was fine…he had nothing to do with the movie’s failure…
Oh I didn’t say the acting was bad.
I’m just saying it resulted in terrible movies.
The curse of affirmative action!
But he didn’t stand out at all, either. He wasn’t a cause for the movie’s failure, but he was a block in the wall that fell over that was called Daredevil.
Compare that to Vincent basically being the highlight of season one of Daredevil.
I think it’d be more appropriate to say that if Daredevil’s reputation was Wile E Coyote and that movie was a giant boulder, the Kingpin was that little Umbrella he puts up before being crushed into paste: Trying to help but not nearly enough for it to actually matter
black Kingpin was a sign that companies that weren’t Marvel were willing to change tried and tested things, just for the sake of changing them. Nobody says any role HAS to be played by somebody who actually looks like the drawn character, but for a lot of fans, that’s what they want. Wait awhile to test out new shit.
Sometimes a superhero movie needs to be cookie cutter.
My version of a FF movie would start with them waking up after the crash, and slowly realizing and dealing with their powers. Doom is in the background, as some kooky leader of a country nobody takes seriously or really even visits, but still knows Reed from school (which can be explained through exposition or a quick flashback scene). You have the FF go on an adventure for most of the movie to save the day (not training, not having long discussions, not being celebrities and media whores), I’ve mentioned keeping it simple with Mole Man or something low tier like that that allows you tons of dudes for Johnny and Thing to obliterate, and some tech scenes to show how smart Reed and Sue are. Also, Reed and Sue should already be in love, or getting married, or married, not meeting and slowly falling in love over the course of a series of movies. They’re the first family of Marvel, make them a fucking family ASAP. Finally, finish the movie off by showing that Doom is behind the scenes masterminding some shit, and setup some sort of colossal Doom movie that needs most of Marvel to take him down.
And of course Doom is a tech genius sorceror extreme.
This all allows you to eventually setup a proper solo Doom movie, showing him sacrificing his beloved to craft his armor, and trying to save his mother from Hell.
this shit is so fucking simple. I don’t want a modern telling of Doom. I don’t want an internet dot com superstar, or Reeds lil brother, or some handsome exec at a company. I want a mother fucking dictator with a face so fucked up he permanently wears a mask and an attitude so badass you won’t know whether he’s gonna fuck you up with robots or magic or just straight up beat you down.
Black Johnny is one of be many things going against this movie but I’m not surprised at all it isn’t the worst thing. The movie fails on concept alone and it’s unlikely the directors "true"vision would have been any better since it seems deviating away from what makes FF4 so great was always his plan. The best thing to come from this film is that it might possibly force fox to consider giving FF4 back to marvel.
everything was bad in this. Thing had no pants. Sue looked like a 50s housewife. Dude playing Reed is pretty fucking strange in real life, and it comes across in this movie, as well as the fact he just doesn’t look the role, and they made johnny, the twin brother of Sue, black because reasons. Doom is essentially Reed’s little brother, and for some reason Fox feels the need to give him magic powers too, because you can’t have magic or Latveria, that wouldn’t make sense.
So all of that was fucking awful, and then on top of it, everything else was a trainwreck, and you have the director apologizing for the movie BEFORE IT IS EVEN RELEASED.
Everybody at marvel must be all:
Well hey this movie at least has 1 supporter.