I don’t think you really need a Doom origin, in a FF movie. They keep trying to find different origins for him, when the best idea would be to just make a FF origin story, and bring up Doom knowing Reed from back in school. Fill in the rest later on.
He should already be in charge of Latveria, and anti-Reed, when the movie begins.
Again this is full on the ultimate fantastic four
If you don’t torrent this, and pay money to see it in a theatre, I will find you and punch you in the dick and balls.
No it isn’t. It’s another failed attempt at a FF movie with yet another NOT FUCKING DOOM as the villain.
Today a black friend of mine asked “what does Johnny Storm being black add to the story?”
I smiled and walked home.
I will have a friend torrent it for me and copy it. I won’t be wasting dl time and bandwidth for this shit.
Ultimate Doom is still from Latveria. His Ultimate counterpart isn’t that different from his main one. He’s still anti-Richards and eventually rules over Latveria.
Well…
Reed is a massive fuckboi (especially Ultimate)…sooooo…
It’s obvious why Doom can’t stand him :lol:
tony was always considered behind reed when it came to smarts in the marvel universe.
why are we even discussing this?
scientist > engineer. All the time. Get that straight
That new trailer makes F4 look pretty by the numbers, not terrible, but not super hype either, just meh.
When Tony fucks up, it leads to the end of life on the earth
When Reed fucks up, it leads to the end of every universe that there ever was and ever will be.
I’ll take Tony Stark for 500 Alek.
Reviews embargoed, you know what that means.
Confirmed as actually being shit instead of just speculated to be shit.
LOL as if there was ever a doubt.
Shit is shit and can be smelled from far away.
that’s a very bright red flag you’re waving there FOX, but what does it all mean? LOLOLOL, i can almost taste the sodium… smfh
That first scene with Doom, Wasp, and Invisible Girl seems like a great set up for a Zone animation…
Sooo a guy that has seen a preview screening spills all… yes spoilers and yes wall of text…
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I’ve seen it. Nobody will believe me, but I saw a preview screening as a plus one with a friend that works in the industry. I love comic book films, and I even thoroughly enjoyed the first two Fantastic films for what they were. Nobody is going to fucking believe how bad this film is, from beginning to end. There is NO soul in this movie. Jamie Bell is okay, but Mr Fantastic, Johnny, and Sue are horribly mis-cast. Miles Teller, who is a fine actor, is terrible in this. He clearly had no interest in the material. The villain is a joke, and is actually part of their fucking family, and then comes back “Wrong”.
This movie is like it was directed by a child and produced by Christopher Nolan. They should have just called the movie Dark and Moody: The Seriously Dark and Moody Comic Book Movie. IT IS TERRIBLE. Probably a 2 out of 10. This movie will bomb. I doubt it clears 25 million for the weekend next week. There will be no sequel, there will be no X-Men crossover. Probably will score in the teens on Rotten Tomatoes, if that. It looks over-produced and saturated in darkness. Garbage. Any 5 minutes of Ant-Man is better than this film.
Q) is victor a childhood friend?
More than just his childhood friend, he is basically his brother. Reeds father takes him in as a child and raises them together. And you know this crap never works in comic book movies, when they try to connect everyone and everything together. Cue large chunks of wasted time and film with poorly written family drama. Even the effects are dodgy, but EVERYTHING is gloomy. Reeds powers are the worst. The stretching effects are terrible. Oh, and by the way, he doesn’t actually stretch at all. His body shape does not change. He is able to warp the space time around himself and manipulate it so it LOOKS like he is able to stretch. Ooooohh so scientific and more real now! Look what we learned from the Dark Knight movies! We don’t have to go to space like the comic, we will just hop to another dimension and get “dimension travel sickness” from making the trip which will forever alter our atoms at a molecular level. We don’t have powers, we have science and stuff! So fucking lame.
q) is doom a blogger?
Okay, so here’s what happens with the first trip. Sue is not part of the team at first, she gets to do the whiny why don’t I ever get to do anything trip because black daddy is over protective of her. In the first portal trip, Victor goes off by himself, and they have to return without him. Sue only joins the team to go back and find him and bring him back, that is why Victor is more “changed” because he was in the dimension longer. His power comes from the pull created by the dimensions wanting to combine together, he is now part of both dimensions and can tap into that power bridging the two dimensions. Sue really is a side character in this film, and her invisibility is what is concentrated on. She creates NO force shield of any kind in this movie until like the last two minutes she figures out she can do it and uses it once.
He is not so much a blogger, as much he believes is “free information.” He is like a hipster version of a old school hacker. He a technology expert, but displays like shut in hacker behavior. He believes all humans have the right to everything, all tech and all info for free. He is hacker/nerd/hipster/goth and his character is just a mess. I would guess they filmed his entire part, and then did not like it and went back and filmed a bunch of little scenes to make the character seem “cooler” because even though he is not bad or evil, he comes off as a deushe bag. And then when he comes back from the portal, he is not really even bad or evil, he just wants to give everyone on the planet a chance to evolve like he did. He’s not evil, he’s just really emotional, so with great power and woosey whiney behavior, he just decides to do whatever he wants cause he can. But he is not menacing, he is a powerful, petulant child basically.
And finally, and most horribly, Sue is not invisible. She does not gain the power of invisibility. Her atoms can move so fast she can’t be seen by the human eye. So it’s not magic or powers . . .it’s science bro. And oh my god … . the Thing.
He is not stone or block or rock or whatever anybody ever thought he was . . his body does not change. He does not “grow bigger.” He has the heightened ability of a evolved mollusk, and his body grows a nearly impenetrable SHELL . … let that soak in . . SHELL! Like a fucking ninja turtle . . and the SHELL, while nearly impenetrable, has the ability to change itself in real time to “absorb” impact. So the little dude is still in there basically, covered in a huge FUCKING SHELL when it’s time to fight. My god, I bet when they first screened this film at the studio, somebody probably tried to strangle Josh Trank.
No fucking way would they EVER let this dude direct a Star Wars movie. Not sure how this went so bad, but it is really that bad, not just being negative, I wanted to like it, but there was just no fucking way. The music is not half bad though during the film, but the closing theme music is a fucking terrible mess of electronic nonsense that just reminds you of the jumbled mess you just watched.
q) can the thing turn back into human form?
At first it is purely reactionary, it happens when he feels threatened or scared, but of course by the end of the movie he can change pretty much at will, which is completely a plot line lifted from the Hulk in Marvel’s film. Of course this completely ruins the character, not being forced to live as a monster pretty much negates his entire character arc. Actually, most of the ideas in this movie are stolen from successful movies.
The “real” and “dark” tone is stolen from the Nolan Batman movies and Man of Steel, The Thing’s storyline is a copy of the Hulk from Marvel, Sue having mommy issues and dead parent issues is stolen from Batman and Spiderman, Reed’s, although much younger, storyline of losing control of his world and also his fear of failing everyone is lifted right from Iron-Man’s Tony Stark issues, Johnny is basically the fuck up brother who never takes anything seriously until he becomes a man, which takes about twenty minutes of screen time. He represents the coming of age storyline which has been done to death in countless movies, he comes off as a black Peter Parker from the crappy Amazing Spiderman films.
And don’t expect a lot of action scenes, except for the obviously CGI heavy final battle between Reeds science team and his mad wittle brother. You see, brother wants to use the dimensional portal they created to give everyone the “dimensional travel sickness” so the whole populace will change at a molecular level as well. He is not really even evil, he just wants to force the next stage of evolution. He basically is trying to do the same thing Magneto did at the end of the first X-Men. But Reed is smarter than him, and realizes it will change the atoms of everything on the planet, not just people, and likely end all life on earth.
Basically they fight at the portal, stuff from both dimensions intermingles and flies around, Victor beats the shit out of them, and then they team up like they did at the end of the first Fantastic Four movie, where they combined their powers, but of course here, they kinda just walk into each other, combing at a molecular level, and become more powerful and take Victor down. It’s a over-dramatic CGI fuckfest of a final battle. So you have the beginning of the movie, the fake brothers growing up together doing science stuff.
The oreo cookie wonder twins who tragically lost their mother, even tho Sue is adopted, so technically I guess she lost three parent total. DRAMA. They all grow up super smart, they open a portal, the go through, they are attached by horrible, grey and black CGI world, they come back, they are different now, Victor is a bit more moody now, was kinda EMO but now more kinda punk and dickish, the military is suspicious, they start to change, the military freaks the fuck out, then wants them as weapons, but black daddy says NO! they are not weapons.
And then he weaponizes them and sends them out to save the world, just like he told the military not to do, but at some point he realized it is their destiny, because now they know everything is tied together, the stars, the planets, people, all life at the molecular level is the same, everything is family, they are all family, we are family, I got all my sisters (and brothers) and me.
Also, Victor does not die. Also, there is no after credits stinger, Also, other then learning about and then practicing their powers, there is not major action until the finale.[/details]
Save your money guys… download this shit…
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd boom goes the dynamite
(Wow, there’s just so many things that sound wrong or dumb about this movie that I don’t know where to start.)
So, instead, I’ll cross my fingers with regards to this tanking and Marvel getting rights to the Fantastic Four and, more importantly, Doctor Doom back just like they did Spider-man recently.
Then again, due to the Spider-man loss, I can unfortunately see FOX being a petulant child about giving back this property and X-Men (and…Deadpool?).
LOL as I said earlier, I will ask my friend to download this for me so that he will watch it first. I’ll make him suffer being a comic book geek. That’s what friends are for.
I think they’re okay with Fox having X-Men. They can never utilize it properly, and when this movie inevitably bombs, a deal will be made. Marvel will get all the FF related characters back, and probably let Fox keep attempting to make an FF movie that isn’t ass or involve a complete re-write of everything. Fox is just proving how inept their execs are. Marvel exists as the final yes man, to prevent idiotic ideas like these from happening. When somebody says ‘hey lets kill Ben Ulrich’ Marvel is there to go hmmmm thats an interesting plot development, lets see how we can work that in. When somebody says ‘hey lets make Doom into Reeds brother and not be a magic/tech god’, you need Marvel to be there to go ‘no that is a fucking terrible idea and you’ve ruined what is arguably the best villain in our repertoire.’
Hell, I don’t even know if I would do Doom as the big bad guy in the first Marvel FF movie. I’d have him in the background, for sure, but you could get away with a Moleman and Moloids movie. Just Thing and Torch and Mr and Mrs Fantastic smashing an army of bad dudes, and big bad dudes. Doom would make an excellent end game boss, after Thanos.
