I think the trailers have been good, and Doom definitely the idea sounds bad but let’s see the execution.
That’s called “bias”. Unless you’re a seer, you can’t assure the movie “will be bad”.
“We’re complaining because the movie will be bad”… Really? REALLY??
It don’t take ESP to see how shitty this movie will be.
I think the movie will be decent but nothing out of this world. Probably going to be completely swallowed by the competition. I hope so. I’d like the F4 license to return to Marvel.
You don’t need to see the end product to know a train wreck when you see one.
All you need to know is the rails are fucked.
Here I will sum up the whole FF movie with this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG5i4LIZV5o
Both ends up as a wash up.
It’s a tell in the marketing and the decisions that we know so far
Making Jonny black shows that they are wiling to sacrifice the source material to please certain real world expectations, in this case the minority issue, by complicating it unnecessarily. Can you think of any reason or benefit for making Jonny black? Is there going to be some sort of point or commentary going on here? I highly doubt it, more likely it’s just here to be ‘progressive’.
The turn towards realism makes sense where the main enemies are down to earth style enemies, such as crime lords, thugs, and spy rings. Human things we can get see in reality. Fantastic Four are the opposite of realism, with dimensional hopping, giant space gods, hyper megalomaniacs, and mole monsters. It’s not meant to be grounded in any form of reality, since there is nothing comparable in our reality for them to draw from. This not only implies a film trying to adapt and mimic other films’ success(coughBatmancough), but shows a lack of connection to the source material, as well as interesting choices to MAKE it seem more realistic(such as Thing and his missing pants). Grimm himself is another good example. Ben Grimm hates his condition yes, but has a delicious NYC attitude and accent, as well as being an excellent charming and blunt foil to Reed’s hyper intelligent drama. Instead, Grimm has mostly been seen with a pissed off face in action shots, even as a human. And I don’t think he’s said a word. Given the direction this film is going, this probably means that instead of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGEKYrX3iA0
We’re gonna get ‘WAAAAAAAHHH I’m a monster who has super powers! Someone feel pity for my nonexistent normal life WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH help me Reed! WAAAAHHH I hate you Reed’
Furthermore, while trailers are not indicative of quality, the ones we’ve seen show stale and unfunny jokes with nothing new in them. The entire trailer explains the entire movie, which reflects what is likely indicating how straightforward the movie will be. The trailer is trying to assure us that they will be telling the story of the Fantastic Four, something that they are not confident enough in just by having it at the end of the trailer. Compare that to lets say the Age of Ultron trailer, which had a mix up jokes, a serious overtone, left us a few questions, and gave us what we were expecting any maybe a little more. Rather than pandering, this trailer is confident in what it is and is proud of it, while the FF one struggles to validate itself. Why? Shouldn’t it being Fantastic Four be enough? It implies desperation, like it’s going ‘NO PLEASE COME BACK! SEE, I’M THE FANTASTIC FOUR!’
These are the things that are there, between the lines, that people can either see or sense that just imply that the movie is trying instead of being Fantastic Four to be what Fox thinks is popular with a Fantastic Four skin over it.
The “realistic”, dark and gritty only works for the Christopher Nolan’s Batman, and that is the sum of it.
Some people will try to bring up Kick Ass, I feel rather than being a Super Hero Movie Kick Ass is more of as Pop/Noir film with vigilantes trying to to dress as Super heros.
Watchmen is anything but realistic, but places the concept of Super Heroes if they would exist in a alternate History Earth.
Man of Steel is ridiculous, I don’t mind making it more obvious in a psudo-scientific way how Superman is stronger than us due to the planet Krypton having a stronger gravity and less oxygen in the atmosphere.
But it really muddles up the Super Man mythos, not to mention the frequent flash backs make the story hard to follow.
Why Guardians of the Galaxy was good, it didn’t bother with origin stores, it didn’t apologies for it self. It was a fun movie where the cast and crew had fun making the movie and it shows. It had some cliques, some common tropes but those tropes used are time tested as tropes that works for a fantasy story. And we got our selves a fair but of cool action scenes and alot of humor.
What I feel why this FF movie is bad is not just they ignored the source material, they ignored the spirit of the original source. Nothing about the Fantastic Four is ‘Real’ or ‘Gritty’, Fantastic Four source (616 or Ultimates) is about as grounded in Realism as the Wizard of Oz.
Well…the movie is going to be bad.
I liked the Human Torch’s special effects. Might watch the movie for that to be completely honest.
Is it too much to ask that an in movie Dr Doom be a badass Megalomaniac in a tricked out suit with mastery over science, magic, and his own country?
Why does ever Doom have to be some mutated dumbass in metal brand skin?
Dumb fat fucks wouldn’t care to sit through a proper Doom story/explanation. Although just cutting to him being established already wouldn’t hurt either since Joe Schmoe doesn’t care about that either as long as explosions and shiny things are on screen.
Suicide Squad I’m at least curious as to HOW awful it’s gonna be, but this doesn’t even spark a morbid curiosity for me.
Because this is the origin story of ultimate fantastic four
Which if they said that in the beginning most people wouldn’t have been so aggravated
Ultimate Doom is a pansy compared to 616 doom
Why the fuck is thing not wearing pants or the speedo? He has dignity not like sasquatch.
Considering what 616 Doom has done in recent comics, I think EVERYBODY compares unfavorably.
Reed built a dimension transporter when he was a kid with scraps in his garage. Tony has been dethroned.
Thing wore pants in earlier trailers, why is he naked?
The most fantastic thing about this movie is that an adoption agency let a blonde white girl be adopted by a black family.
Because FUCK FOX is why.
I was thinking, if all the F4 characters were to die in this movie. I wouldnt even care
I hope marvel does their cyborg human torch justice
Not a cave though.