Flaws of MvC2 and what Capcom should learn

Not getting hit and push blocking is how you get out of a corner in mvc2. Bursts are unnecessary.

I really do hope they adopt some mechanics from TvC into MvC3. I avidly play TvC and enjoy the gameplay mechanics much more than MvC2. Mega Crash, Baroque, Variable Air Raid, and Cross over counter systems are a boon to the vs. series so I hope they keep them in.

niddhoggr why are you so hasty calling me a scrub? I’ll admit that will very likely school me at MvC2 but maybe you should try me at TvC.

I’ll try you in tvc when we’re discussing tvc2. mega crash has NO PLACE in mvc. You take the damage and the salt.

Look, MvC3 is part of the vs series and so is TvC, whether you believe it or not. What TvC introduced to the series was new ways of implementing super meter for things other than, well, supers. From my experience, supers in that game are, in most cases, actually a waste of meter unless it’s a reset or unaffected by proration.

I wouldn’t want to go as far as to make supers dwarfed by the utility of universal meter-consuming techniques, but I think they are a step in the right direction.

Make the burst baitable. If you can bait that shit for a punish its just another mind game.

In what way is TvC part of the Marvel series?

TvC is a part of the vs series, just like XMvSF, MvC1 and 2. However, it is not the same crossover.

Capcom vs SNK is a different series because of the very different mechanics. The previous games listed all have similar game mechanics.

no…tvc is not a part of the series just because of a few slightly similar mechanics. it’s a different series entirely because of the sides involved. the game mechanics are pretty different. more like capcom’s project justice + some other ish and not really anything from the marvel vs series.

tvc is apart (tatsu and cap series)
cvs1/cvs2 are apart (cap and snk series)
svc is apart (snk vs cap series)
nvc is apart
xmcota, msh, xvs, mvs, mvc, mvc2, mvc3 are apart (all of them involving marvel is what makes tvc not in the same series)
mk vs dc is apart (lol not a capcom game but still…)

Mvc3 is gonna be the best fighting game ever ! Atleast I think so…I mean it’s no way they can mess the series up after a 10 year gap? or can they?

No, it’s the Marvel series. The first game in the series is X-Men COTA, which features no Capcom characters.

I respectfully disagree on the point of TvC being a different series but I digress.

My main point was on the addition of super meter consuming techniques. Do you think super meter should be used exclusively for supers or should there be new mechanics that revolve around the same meter (EX moves, Mega Crash, snapback, ect)?

TvC is part of the vs series, but not the marvel series. how is that such a hard concept to understand?

^ exactly.

I mean if someone needs other examples. Megaman Zero is part of the Megaman series, but not the Megaman X series. Mario 64 is part of the Mario series, but not the Super Mario brothers series etc…

Akuma was in COTA

lol he wasn’t exactly featured.

or just don’t put stupid shit burst bad mechanic bad game in mvc3. here’s a mind game for some people to try out: don’t fucking get hit. get this, if you get hit, you should eat some fucking damage (additionally: get styled on)

but what about INFINITES!? No fighting game ever didn’t have burst without a bunch of infinites!!!

There are a bunch of non-super techniques that use meter in mvc2. If you don’t know anything about mvc2 why are you making suggestions!?

Radomly inserted talking point since what counts as a VS game seems like an incredibly scrubby topic.

Are there any SF characters with character specific abilities in MVC2?
Chip damage on normals
no block damage from beams
Super Armor

Marvel always gets the advantage here because marvel characters have powers and deeper backstory, but as a balance issue they could throw more abilities capacom’s way even if those abilities aren’t completely storyline backed. Theres no reason for Morrigan to take hits better than Juggernaut or heal faster that wolverine, but as a balancing issue could you please give her SOMETHING (reduced damage from male character for instance).

Theres no problem with one character having a loophole to a game rule, but to have the loopholes so unevenly distributed isn’t really helping an already ubalanced setup.

Well…Servbot’s really, really tiny.

magnomanx what are you talking about in general. lol

why the fuck is anyone bringing up burst for mvc3. it wasnt even a worthwhile mechanic in tvc. do you even play the fucking game. if you megacrash me, i can megacrash you back on reaction if its worth the meter, and stay in your ass. so if i have 4 meters, and you have 2, megacrashing out of my combo is not going to help you much if i jump in your ass again, and you cant do shit until you get two meters, and even though tvc uas changed a lot of shit, there are still high damaging combos in that game, that are still almost as brain dead as the first versions combos.

megacrash is fucking stupid, and i like tvc, but its all just a nice illusion for the scrubs. at high level play it can be risky because you can easily get baited, and end up wasting life and meter, and or megacrashed back.

baroque in a game like mvc3 that will be faster then tvc, with more powerful characters most likely, would be fucking ridiculous. could you imagine baroque in mvc2, even with mid and low tier characters. pffft, fuck that. only reason baroque remotely works in tvc is because its slower, so you can react to most shit, and you have your freebie dont combo me please megacrash shit.

mvc3 does not need any other uses for meter, and did you say something about ex moves. ex moves in a vs game? are you fucking smoking crack or something. lol. all marvel needs is meter for supers, snap backs, and counters. fuck all that aerial raid nonsense that is oh so prevelant in the newer version of tvc because they nerfed damage so hard that thats like the only way to do big damage in that game and do it quickly, because the player taking damage builds more meter then they use to in the original version.

tvc needs to stay there. you marvel scrubs who want tvc3 with marvel characters need to fucking go somewhere with that shit. i hate you generation of new players with no respect for that good ol shit, and no quality ass shit to say even for the new shit. i mean, every new member said something dumb a few times, but god damn. ive never seen so much stupid, and the worst part, is its coming from people that dont even play marvel, and probably arent even that good at tvc.

i havent even played the new version yet, and just to be a dick, i bet i would still dog you out in that shit with one week of practice. you like tvc, fine, go fucking play tvc if you can. if you cant, and you want mvc3 to be the new tvc, then you need to go fuck yourself. its already bad enough that we will probably get stupid shit in mvc3.