First HIV-Positive Man Cured With Stem Cell Treatment

[danomighty]

fuck condoms! :tup:

[SoVi3t]

I got it on DVD

Alternate Ending >> Cinema Ending

…spoiler me the alt ending

[Jarekov]

The good thing about this cure is it perpetuates itself,
Since less dudes are going worry about getting HIV because its treatable you know more motherfuckers are gonna be out there beating guts. So in turn more delectable baby stem cells for use.

Do your job and start fucking.

[yah_yaahh_b_tch]

“full on aids” is when an hiv positive patient gets a disease/infection that their immune system cannot fight.

Wrong.

AIDS is when your T-Cell count falls below a specific range after becoming HIV positive.

Then you die from things like the common cold or a staph infection. HIV/AIDS doesnt necessarily kill you its the complications from having a compromised immune system.

[Jarekov]

I can finally go into the city and get my fuck on. AWESOME.

[yah_yaahh_b_tch]

:nono: lol that YOU know of, here’s one they probably didn’t teach you in school that you can add to your list - Human papillomavirus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

HPV makes you more susceptible to STi and cancers.

I actually have a mother whos in the healthcare field. lol. Thanks tho.

[runaround]

I thought there already was a treatment for HIV and just not AIDS? Someone educate me here.

There’s a treatment for AIDS called HAART. You have to take pills every single day to keep the virus level under control, and if you miss a few doses, it takes months of taking pills again to get the virus levels back down. The virus is unable to adapt because the drug cocktail simultaneously attacks several different vulnerabilities that make it highly unlikely that the virus will evolve a mutation that will defend all of them in a single generation. But if you aren’t able to keep up the daily regimen, there is a risk that the virus will adapt to the drug cocktail.

more here: Antiretroviral drug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[yah_yaahh_b_tch]

I thought there already was a treatment for HIV and just not AIDS? Someone educate me here.

No, its just that HIV isnt a death sentence anymore…still, you dont want it. Especially if you dont have healthcare lol. Such was the case with my aunt.

ANYWAYS

The drugs we have now days can reduce the levels of HIV in the blood to near undetectable traces, but thats through years of medicine and literally dozens of “cocktails” a day. Im not sure how far we have gotten now, but about 10 years ago it was about 13 pills a day, im sure its probably less at this point.

Thats why Magic Johnson is fine and dandy. His levels of HIV are undetectable in his system. But of course he has lots of money to afford the expensive medicine.

EDIT: looks up

Yup. This guy is exactly right. And because of the medicine cocktail is actually makes you feel just as bad as taking no medicine at all. It attacks your body for attacking itself. AIDS basically fights the helper T-cells and white blood cells that promote reconstruction and foreign body eradication.

Imagine if you took a 4 month fetus out of a womans stomach and just sat him in a chair. You and the baby probably have the same strength immune system.

[fishjie]

LOL at this thread and everyone talking about fucking hookers bare back. this is what happens when media overhypes shit.

From what I’m reading this isn’t a practical treatment at all. You have to find someone with the genetic mutation (1/1000 people) and they have to be a suitable donor for you which is very unlikely.

yes this is what i’ve read.

the guy who they did the stem cell transplant with had a rare mutation that let him fight off that strain of HIV. also the doctors said that this really isn’t a practical treatment because stem cell transplant are incredibly dangerous and risky procedure.

Stem Cell Transplant ‘Cures’ Leukemia Patient Timothy Ray Brown of AIDS

(Dec. 15) – Doctors in Germany report they have cured an HIV-positive American of the AIDS virus after performing a stem cell transplant to treat his leukemia.

But experts caution that while the man’s outcome seems promising, the risky procedure might not work on otherwise healthy people with HIV and probably won’t yield an overall cure for AIDS. Still, if the patient’s HIV doesn’t resurface, this would mark the first time HIV has been wiped out in any patient.

In 2007, Timothy Ray Brown received a stem cell transplant to treat his leukemia, a cancer of the blood. The procedure involves destroying a patient’s natural immune system with chemotherapy and radiation, then boosting it back up by inserting bone marrow or blood stem cells from a healthy donor.

Brown’s donor was not only a perfect match for his blood and bone marrow type but also happened to have a rare, inherited genetic mutation that makes carriers virtually immune to HIV. The donor’s cells took root in Brown’s body and multiplied. Three years later, Brown’s leukemia is in remission, and he’s also HIV-negative.

The German doctors’ findings were published last week in Blood, the journal of the American Society of Hematology. “Our results strongly suggest that cure of HIV has been achieved in this patient,” they wrote.

Other experts warn that HIV could still be present – but dormant and undetectable – in the patient’s blood.

“‘Cured’ is a strong word. But this is very encouraging,” Dr. David Scadden, co-director of the Harvard University Stem Cell Institute, told The Miami Herald. “From all indications, there was no residual virus. It’s as good an outcome as one could hope.”

But Jerome Zack, an HIV researcher at the University of California at Los Angeles, told MSNBC that “you can’t eliminate the potential for there still being low-level virus in the body that’s undetectable.”

There’s also a problem with replicating the same procedure in otherwise healthy patients who are HIV-positive but don’t have leukemia. Plus, the genetic mutation found in Brown’s donor, which makes patients resistant to HIV, is extremely rare.

“This probably is a cure, but it comes at a bit of a price,” Dr. Michael Saag, professor of medicine and director of the University of Alabama at Birmingham AIDS Center, told CNN.

“For him to receive the donor cells, his body had to have all of his immune system wiped out” and then receive a bone marrow transplant, Saag said. “The catch-22 here is that the best candidates for a cure, ideally, are people who are healthy” and don’t have leukemia, he said.

Stem cell transplants are very risky because they wipe out the patient’s immune system to the point where they could die without an insertion of healthy donor cells. That process is “very hazardous,” Saag said. “Even if somebody doesn’t die from a transplant, there are complications that make it very unpleasant for people to live with.”

[Jarekov]

^ so I cant go fuck in the city… total buzzkill i had my car gassed up and everything.

[SoVi3t]

so I should probably pull my dick out of this nasty hooker I’m fucking? Damn

[Don_Barracuda]

…spoiler me the alt ending

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HPV makes you more susceptible to STi and cancers.

I actually have a mother whos in the healthcare field. lol. Thanks tho.

Same lol, we give out vaccines at our clinic. But yeh it’s other things that ultimately kill.

[CI581]

wow, something was actually “fixed”. Now, how about lowering the prices on meds for everyone.

[acerbic]

wow, something was actually “fixed”. Now, how about lowering the prices on meds for everyone.

If you mean a freak mutation saved someone than yeah, I guess it was fixed.

And lowering the price of meds is stupid BS bandied about to win points and rally people against “those evil pharma companies”, it’s bull. Those pharma companies make drugs to make cash, and they depend on US prices to do it, strip the profit from it and guess who’s using chemistry and biology for things other than drugs for humans that pay better? Oh, that’s right, big pharma.

One of the main reasons health care is so stupidy expensive here is we do zero in preventative care and then go nuts over trying to cure things after we fuck ourselves over. Want cheaper medical care that works? Stop drinking soda, don’t have sex with danger groups that have high STD rates, use condoms, stop eating fast food, don’t eat large amounts of red meat, for gods sake don’t eat anything cooked over mid rare, eat your veggies, don’t smoke, exercise, and whamo, you won’t be spending an arm and a leg trying to cure yourself for self inflicted problems due to your own stupidity or irresponsibility.

Or of course, you could rail against the man. Which is just as insane as setting your house on fire and then bitching about taxes that go to support the fire department.

[Don_Barracuda]

One of the main reasons health care is so stupidy expensive here is we do zero in preventative care and then go nuts over trying to cure things after we fuck ourselves over. Want cheaper medical care that works? Stop drinking soda, don’t have sex with danger groups that have high STD rates, use condoms, stop eating fast food, don’t eat large amounts of red meat, for gods sake don’t eat anything cooked over mid rare, eat your veggies, don’t smoke, exercise, and whamo, you won’t be spending an arm and a leg trying to cure yourself for self inflicted problems due to your own stupidity or irresponsibility.

Or of course, you could rail against the man. Which is just as insane as setting your house on fire and then bitching about taxes that go to support the fire department.

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[Pertho]

don’t eat anything over mid rare? Care to explain this one. I have no idea why you wouldn’t eat something over mid rare.

[acerbic]

don’t eat anything over mid rare? Care to explain this one. I have no idea why you wouldn’t eat something over mid rare.

Red meat causes cancer, cooking meat increases the amount of carcinogens in the food that you eat. So if you eat a raw steak, there is no damage done to it that would cause damage to. If you eat a well done steak, not only have you destroyed a lot of the nutrition in it, but all those parts that are now brown, have a far increased amount of carcinogens. And that black stuff left over on meat when you grill it, that shit is god awful for you.

This doesn’t mean you can’t eat it on occasion or that consuming it is going to 100% give you colon cancer. View it as alcohol and tobacco products. Regular consumption greatly increases the odds of all sorts of things, some of which are rather bad.

In the case of all meat products cooking them serves only to remove nutrition from them with the upshot that it should kill any sort of bacteria or parasites, but those aren’t a problem today. Now outside of red meat (namely beef, lamb, ect) it’s not going to do anything that does anything bad, ie fish is fine to cook the crap out of. But with red meat you need to keep in mind that the darker it is the worse it is for you.

Cooking steak through is one of the reasons that groups who eat a ton of it have colon cancer rates through the roof compared to other groups.

As a side note, no decent steak house is going to serve you a steak that is more than slightly warm in the center and still raw. Outside of health issues you completely ruin the dish and it makes you look like trailer trash.

[Pertho]

Makes me look like trailer trash? Wow. Good thing I have yet to go to a steak house and embarrassed myself. Thanks for the info and link for others that want more detailed info.

Cancer Project/The Five Worst Foods to Grill

Chemicals in Meat Cooked at High Temperatures and Cancer Risk - National Cancer Institute

Hmm…so I should be baking my meats or cooking them in olive oil?

[Javid]

Makes me look like trailer trash? Wow. Good thing I have yet to go to a steak house and embarrassed myself. Thanks for the info and link for others that want more detailed info.

Cancer Project/The Five Worst Foods to Grill

Chemicals in Meat Cooked at High Temperatures and Cancer Risk - National Cancer Institute

Hmm…so I should be baking my meats or cooking them in olive oil?

Damn, I never expected chicken and fish to be worst for you than red meat…

[Pertho]

Damn, I never expected chicken and fish to be worst for you than red meat…

At this point I’d love to hear of something that I would eat that WON’T give me cancer.